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frankie 2 times
July 30th, 2008, 03:22 PM
The U.S. should stop arresting responsible marijuana users, Rep. Barney Frank said Wednesday, announcing a proposal to end federal penalties for Americans carrying fewer than 100 grams, almost a quarter-pound, of the substance.

Current laws targeting marijuana users place undue burdens on law enforcement resources, punish ill Americans whose doctors have prescribed the substance and unfairly affect African-Americans, said Frank, flanked by legislators and representatives from advocacy groups.

"The vast amount of human activity ought to be none of the government's business," Frank said during a Capitol Hill news conference. "I don't think it is the government's business to tell you how to spend your leisure time."

The Massachusetts Democrat and his supporters emphasized that only the use -- and not the abuse -- of marijuana would be decriminalized if the resolution passes.

The Drug Enforcement Administration says people charged with simple possession are rarely incarcerated. The agency and the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy have long opposed marijuana legalization, for medical purposes or otherwise.

Marijuana is a Schedule I controlled substance, meaning it has a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use, according to the ONDCP.

"Smoked marijuana has not withstood the rigors of science -- it is not medicine and it is not safe," the DEA states on its Web site. "Legalization of marijuana, no matter how it begins, will come at the expense of our children and public safety. It will create dependency and treatment issues, and open the door to use of other drugs, impaired health, delinquent behavior, and drugged drivers."

Allen St. Pierre, spokesman for the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), likened Frank's proposal -- co-sponsored by Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas -- to current laws dealing with alcohol consumption. Alcohol use is permitted, and the government focuses its law enforcement efforts on those who abuse alcohol or drive under its influence, he said.

"We do not arrest and jail responsible alcohol drinkers," he said.

St. Pierre said there are tens of millions of marijuana smokers in the United States, including himself, and hundreds of thousands are arrested each year for medical or personal use.

There have been 20 million marijuana-related arrests since 1965, he said, and 11 million since 1990, and "every 38 seconds, a marijuana smoker is arrested."

Rob Kampia, director of the Marijuana Policy Project, said marijuana arrests outnumber arrests for "all violent crimes combined," meaning that police are spending inordinate amounts of time chasing nonviolent criminals.

"Ending arrests is the key to marijuana policy reform," he said.

Reps. William Lacy Clay, D-Missouri, and Barbara Lee, D-California, said that in addition to targeting nonviolent offenders, U.S. marijuana laws also unfairly target African-Americans.

Clay said he did not condone drug use, but he opposes using tax dollars to pursue what he feels is an arcane holdover from "a phony war on drugs that is filling up our prisons, especially with people of color."

Too many drug enforcement resources are being dedicated to incarcerating nonviolent drugs users, and not enough is being done to stop the trafficking of narcotics into the United States, he said.

Being arrested is not the American marijuana smoker's only concern, said Bill Piper of the Drug Policy Alliance Network. Those found guilty of marijuana use can lose their jobs, financial aid for college, their food stamp and welfare benefits, or their low-cost housing.

The U.S. stance on marijuana, Piper said, "is one of the most destructive criminal justice policies in America today."

Calling the U.S. policy "inhumane" and "immoral," Lee said she has many constituents who are harassed or arrested for using or cultivating marijuana for medical purposes. California allows medical marijuana use, but the federal government does not, she explained.

House Resolution 5843, titled the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2008, would allow "a very small number of individuals" suffering from chronic pain or illness to smoke marijuana with impunity.

frankie 2 times
July 30th, 2008, 03:22 PM
According to NORML, marijuana can be used to treat a range of illnesses, including glaucoma, asthma, multiple sclerosis, HIV/AIDS and seizures.

Frank, who is chairman of the Financial Services Committee, said about a dozen states already have approved some degree of medical marijuana use, and the federal government should stop devoting resources to arresting people who are complying with their states' laws.

In a shot at Republicans, Frank said it was strange that those who support limited government want to criminalize marijuana.

Asked if the resolution's passage would change his personal behavior, Frank quipped, "I do obey every law I vote for," but quickly said he did not use marijuana, nor does he encourage it.

"I smoke cigars. I don't think other people should do that. If young people ask me, I would advise them not to do it," he said.

If HR 5843 were passed by the House, marijuana smokers could possess up to 100 grams -- about 3½ ounces -- of cannabis without being arrested. It would also permit the "nonprofit transfer" of up to an ounce of marijuana.

The resolution would not affect laws forbidding growing, importing or exporting marijuana, or selling it for profit. The resolution also would not affect any state laws regarding marijuana use.

tkcomer
July 30th, 2008, 05:13 PM
I've long said our drug laws are insane. But don't look for MJ to be legalized. There is way too much money on both sides involved. From the street dealers making a buck to the DEA getting billions to fight it to the prisons costing billions to house them, neither side wants to give up those dollars. Both sides will fight to keep it illegal. And we'll be paying big bucks in tax dollars to keep this farce going.

Brian K Beckett
July 30th, 2008, 07:57 PM
Oh yeah Too much money being made on both sides and many people playing both sides and profiting from it as well.
Me personally I think it Mj should be legalized. I dont do it and dont really care to have it around me but I dont think anyone has ever Over Dosed on it or any other things harmful from it.
I served on Jury Duty a few years back and by the end of it no one was wanting to indite anyone for drugs unless it was a violent offence that involved drugs but we did.


I like this quote
"Smoked marijuana has not withstood the rigors of science -- it is not medicine and it is not safe," the DEA states on its Web site. "Legalization of marijuana, no matter how it begins, will come at the expense of our children and public safety. It will create dependency and treatment issues, and open the door to use of other drugs, impaired health, delinquent behavior, and drugged drivers."

Now how many times have you herd the FDA say that just because a drug is approved still doesent mean its been tested or safe?

I especially like the part of the quote about how it will be at the expense of our children.

What about the past present and future expence of imprisioning people for non violent mary jane offences?

Did you see the paper today about the govorner pardens? Sure let out the murderers and sex offenders but dont let out the pot smoker.

mark
July 30th, 2008, 09:40 PM
The Massachusetts Democrat and his supporters emphasized that only the use -- and not the abuse -- of marijuana would be decriminalized if the resolution passes.


Hmmm, I wonder just who "interprets" whether a pot smoker uses...or...abuses marijuana??

Sounds like a typical liberal approach to the problem........see ya mark

tkcomer
July 31st, 2008, 04:46 PM
The typical neo con approach is to expand government and spend massive tax dollars jailing them and hunting for them. Worked so well during prohibition for alcohol.

SilverFox
July 31st, 2008, 05:03 PM
I think everyone knows the "war on drugs" has been a huge bust. While I am a conservative, I do think there is a massive prison industry in this country that would really suffer if drug laws were changed. I don't suggest making pot legal, but I also don't agree with jail sentences for minor drug use. Also, drug users need help, not jail. The dealers belong in jail. So often only the low level dealers are arrested and the kingpins are never touched. A lot of people are making a lot of money off the "war on drugs". I don't even smoke regular cigs and have never smoked pot, but I don't think it is a huge offense. I would rather deal with someone who has smoked pot than a mean drunk.

tkcomer
July 31st, 2008, 05:19 PM
Back in the 70's and early 80s. I could care less about drug laws. Didn't affect me. But then I got to looking at the crime stats. The gangs. The murders. I saw an escalation of laws and the massive tax dollars that went with them. Then I thought, this is prohibition on a larger scale. The escalating laws against drugs was making the problem worse. And the jails filled up. Releasing or paroling real criminals while they packed them with users. The corruption of government officials to keep this madness going. What few countries that have legalized and regulated drugs have seen a dramatic drop in crime. Sadly, our tax dollars are being used to fuel this mess.

Brian K Beckett
July 31st, 2008, 05:27 PM
The people that are making money from building prisons and all the goodies to equip them are mostly a branch of defence contractors that are basically lobying for prohabition of the petty drugs.

anb_swrk
July 31st, 2008, 10:09 PM
I work in an adolescent drug rehab... marijuana use is 85% of the DOC (drug of choice) and the jail is full of offenders, some just are there for simply paraphenalia charges. I somewhat agree that after a certain amount it should be considered a chargable offense. There is a difference between leisure smoking, abuse, and dependent. Same as with alcohol and pills. There are defintely more serious offenses and offenders that could be occupying our billion-dollar jails. Rehabilitation services are more readily available and for those who are assessed as abusers and dependent could be sentenced to rehab instead of jail. Make a difference in their life instead of institutionalizing them.

JRbickley
July 31st, 2008, 11:12 PM
If you are in your back yard minding your own business, I could care less. If your not then I have a problem, no different then if I have a 6 pack to me.

tkcomer
August 3rd, 2008, 02:56 PM
Define abuse. The government defines it if you use it at all. You're "abusing" the law is what that's about. Big money in confiscation of property and forcing the "abuser" to pay for their rehab. Still doesn't pay for the tax dollars thrown done this hole. Do away with the law, and there would be very few abusers. Of course, if the government did come to it's senses, and that will never happen, thousands would be out of a job. On both sides of the law. But the voters love to pay taxes. That's why they support these boneheads that pass these laws.