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landlord
July 28th, 2008, 02:39 AM
Due to recent events/crimes at or close to home, I am curious to know if you or anyone you know has been victim to some type of crime and what kind. If after reading/taking the poll you have other options or comments, feel free to post to the thread.
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Yeah, I am using this as a way to vent my frustrations, not my first choice but one that will keep me from doing something stupid I hope. I now understand how violence breeds more violence, it is a human response. Only with time, meditation and prayer can we overcome such desires.

TheMan
July 28th, 2008, 03:42 PM
Needs to be an all of the above.

tkcomer
July 28th, 2008, 04:08 PM
Don't really have a category for me. Years ago, I put a new soft top on my Jeep. I think I had it about two weeks when vandals slashed it. Of course insurance paid for it, but thats what drives insurance up.

landlord
July 28th, 2008, 06:18 PM
SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!
Only a few hours after posting this thread and I have theft and vandalism at my office.
I am not an owner of a gun but after this latest string of theft and vandalism at home and office, I am seriously considering purchasing one, A BIG ONE!
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Needs to be an all of the above.

Yes you are right, I wish I knew how to edit a poll. Where are you CHUCK? lol

TheMan
July 28th, 2008, 07:42 PM
Done it for ya friend.

Brian K Beckett
July 28th, 2008, 07:50 PM
I guess I have been fortuniate. The only thing I can remember criminaly happening to me is I got a jon boat stolen from me several years ago but it was partly my own fault. I left it chained up to a tree on the North Fork and decided to go fisin and it was gone. I got lazy I used to load it up and take it home with me everytime we used to go fishin but I decided to leave it down there because it was a hastle and now its gone. I kinda blame myself.

Landlord sounds like you been havin it rough lately.

landlord
July 28th, 2008, 08:35 PM
Done it for ya friend.

Thanks guy.
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Landlord sounds like you been havin it rough lately.


It has been interesting for sure. But this too shall pass, so they say!:confused:

bivdawgs
July 28th, 2008, 09:34 PM
no it was not your fault people need to respect the fact that if it doesn't belong to you don't touch it. I had someone (we know who but can't prove it) come into our business and steal my billfold and money from the money bag, and this was not the first time he has done this. I still feel even if it was laid out on the counter if it doesn't belong to you don't touch it!!!!!!

landlord
July 28th, 2008, 11:04 PM
I guess I need to add vandalism to the list as well. TKComer and now myself have that to add to our list. Hey TheMan, can you add that option? Thanks guy!

Brian K Beckett
July 28th, 2008, 11:06 PM
no it was not your fault people need to respect the fact that if it doesn't belong to you don't touch it. I had someone (we know who but can't prove it) come into our business and steal my billfold and money from the money bag, and this was not the first time he has done this. I still feel even if it was laid out on the counter if it doesn't belong to you don't touch it!!!!!!

I think your post was partly a responce to mine:

I agree if it does not belong to you then it is not yours.

But I still should not have left them the opertunity. On an odd note about my boat they did leave me the chain (after they cut it) and the lock oh yeah and they even left me the anchor.

Anyone got a jon boat or a conoe for sell cheap?
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I guess I need to add vandalism to the list as well. TKComer and now myself have that to add to our list. Hey TheMan, can you add that option? Thanks guy!

It sounds lke someone or someones are targeting you. Or maybe you just need to hire some Pinkertons to guard your stuff for a while.

landlord
July 28th, 2008, 11:24 PM
It sounds lke someone or someones are targeting you. Or maybe you just need to hire some Pinkertons to guard your stuff for a while.

The "stuff" as you say is replaceable, it is just sad and frustrating to know that people have no respect for other's property or for another person these days. It is bad enough I have to pay to evict nonpaying tenants and then again to collect what they owe, but now to pay someone(Pinkertons) to protect what I have worked hard to have.
Maybe it is time for citizens to band together and form watch groups and if that fails, call in the Black Panthers. ;)

Foxy
July 28th, 2008, 11:44 PM
Added Vandalism... Chuck and The Man aren't the only moderators...lol

mark
July 28th, 2008, 11:58 PM
...yes, I had a relative that had her home burglarized.

Believe it or not, the MPD recovered the goods missing.

Couldn't believe it, but an awesome job by the officers involved........see ya mark

landlord
July 29th, 2008, 12:21 AM
Added Vandalism... Chuck and The Man aren't the only moderators...lol

FORGIVE ME FOXY! And thanks!

Huey
July 29th, 2008, 10:50 AM
I have a funny/not so funny story- my brother teaches at a small school nearby and some pre-teens were having a "campout/sleep-over". Well, they decided they'd egg his truck that is his "baby" and they threw hard-boiled eggs. Good thing for my bro, but I guess they just haven't "aced" their skills on tick-tacking.

tkcomer
July 29th, 2008, 01:15 PM
I'd forgot I had a car egged once during Halloween. No damage, just a pain to clean. I've always thought property crimes went up when they came up with the idea that shooting petty thieves was a no no. Wasn't a bad idea at the time. Then the drug war came along and they packed the jails with them and put the thieves on parole. If they ain't gonna lock 'em up, let us start shooting them again. Vandals might think twice if a bullet may come out of nowhere.

landlord
July 29th, 2008, 01:48 PM
I'd forgot I had a car egged once during Halloween. No damage, just a pain to clean. I've always thought property crimes went up when they came up with the idea that shooting petty thieves was a no no. Wasn't a bad idea at the time. Then the drug war came along and they packed the jails with them and put the thieves on parole. If they ain't gonna lock 'em up, let us start shooting them again. Vandals might think twice if a bullet may come out of nowhere.

I respect the police officers we have now and what they do, but if we need to hire more to get things back under control I say do it. But in addition we need to get our laws back on track. Quit slapping wrists, fining or releasing completely the criminals and lock them up. If the laws don't change and things continue I see people taking the law into their own hands which will lead to chaos.

tkcomer
July 29th, 2008, 02:01 PM
The chaos would only last a short time. Criminals would get the message. The cops can't be everywhere. No matter how many you hired. Besides, the jails are full. Time to thin the herd. Of course, I could never shoot a lowly vandal. But I wouldn't convict someone that did if on a jury. It would be rough for a short time. But I tell ya, I bet parents would keep a closer eye on their little thieves, er darlings, if they thought they might be paying for a funeral. With no way to sue to "compensate" for their loss.

Victor McKay
July 29th, 2008, 02:30 PM
Our home was broken into last year. The intruders actually had the kahunas to not only steal some money and jewelry but also took time to eat, have a few cans of soda, look at porn on the computer and just make themselves right at home.
Never was invited to any of the court proceedings but do know they were placed on probation. PROBATION for breaking into my home!

tkcomer
July 29th, 2008, 03:33 PM
Hey Victor. Gotta make room in the jails for those ones they catch with half a joint on them. Drug laws need to change. Letting the thieves go free while they put a person in jail for a small amount of drugs is crazy.

landlord
July 29th, 2008, 04:33 PM
Here is an ideal. Anyone caught breaking the law for robbery, theft, drugs, violence, abuse, WHATEVER, give them the option of doing hard time in jail or being sent to Iraq or Afghanistan. They don't respect the rights of anyone else so they should be taken to a place where their rights and safety are in jeopardy.
Just a thought.

glee
July 29th, 2008, 06:15 PM
Put CORPORAL PUNISHMENT back in the schools . Then put the stocks in front of the court house for public floggings.Use them for the small crimes (vandalism and such ).I bet those would deter alot of ignorance.Criminals have no FEAR of the law and need to have that fear placed back in them.

landlord
July 29th, 2008, 07:08 PM
It all starts at home, or is supposed to at least. I am on the fence when it comes to whipping/spanking. I grew up when that was quite normal and quite frankly I probably needed more than I ever received but I turned out OK(I think).
There are some children that you don't need to lay a hand on, a stern look or rebuking word can bring them into line, or a time out, or revoking some privileges but then there are others that are more difficult to get through to. Of course most of these are not even necessary if a child is raised with love in the home, is shown respect and sees respect shown to others in the home and outside the home.
I know with my 6 year old nephew that when around screaming, yelling, cussing and hitting he imitates that behavior but when he is with those that act civilized, after some reminding how to act, he is a well behaved and lovable child.
So it falls on the parents initially but once a person reaches the age of accountability, he/she has to decide how to behave and react to situations that occur in their life. No one likes disappointments, failure, or other bad things to happen but get used to it, THAT is life.
So glee,yes the fear or knowledge of consequences needs to be reinstilled in many people but if we start at home, that will take care of the majority of the problem. For those beyond that point or who can't fathom the lesson, then there should be swift and severe consequences to their actions.
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THIS WORLD/COUNTRY IS GOING TO POT.

I asked my aunt to show a house for me today, and while she was showing it, she left her purse on the counter and when she returned, money had been taken out of the purse. The pregnant granddaughter couldn't do steps so remained behind alone.
Once informed I called the party right away but the granddaughter denied it.
What is this world coming to?

jess41056
July 30th, 2008, 10:20 PM
I agree. Children learn by example, children who have 'criminal' parents are at greater risks of becoming delinquent themselves. I also think that too much TV can be an influenece. There is evidence of a causal link between children watching TV violence and engaging in violent acts. If we are practiced in violence, we become violent.

landlord
August 1st, 2008, 06:29 AM
ACCOUNTABILITY
It seems that accountability has been taken out of the vocabulary or has dissappeared from the population. If people were held responsible for their acts, parents held responsible for their childrens actions and the correct admonishment or punishment given when necessary, I feel more people would THINK before they act.
It is a free for all now and the most they get is a slap on the wrist????? If they are caught or held accountable in the first place that is.
Simply insane!

littlelee
August 1st, 2008, 05:31 PM
ACCOUNTABILITY
It seems that accountability has been taken out of the vocabulary or has dissappeared from the population. If people were held responsible for their acts, parents held responsible for their childrens actions and the correct admonishment or punishment given when necessary, I feel more people would THINK before they act.
It is a free for all now and the most they get is a slap on the wrist????? If they are caught or held accountable in the first place that is.
Simply insane!

So very true! No one is held accountable for anything anymore. This is the reason we're having the discussions we're having about bans, fuel prices and every other thread here on BBS. Someone, somewhere, not being held accountable for their actions pretty much started it all. And, unless we bring accountability back, I truly fear for our nation.

Brian K Beckett
August 1st, 2008, 05:58 PM
So very true! No one is held accountable for anything anymore. This is the reason we're having the discussions we're having about bans, fuel prices and every other thread here on BBS. Someone, somewhere, not being held accountable for their actions pretty much started it all. And, unless we bring accountability back, I truly fear for our nation.



I am truly in fear of our nation because of the affects of NO accountibility.

Its sort of lke that saying give a man a fish and feed him for a day but teach a man to fish and he can feed himself for a lifetime.

Now we want to just take something away from someone in stead of teaching them the proper use of something or taking corrective actions against that person.

Everything I do not care what it is be it internet, dogs, plastic, religion, or anything and everything can be used for good or bad and I mean everything. If we just go around banning everone from everything that someone else uses or does improperly we wont have anything left.

And it all boiles back down to holding someone responsible for their actions.

Why is it such a taboo to hold 1 or 2 people accountable for their wrong doings but is compleatly an acceptable thing to punish everyone for the actions of those 1 or 2???

landlord
August 2nd, 2008, 02:47 AM
HARRASSMENT
How could I forget that all too mentioned offense?
I find it quite amusing how people like to throw that verbage around just to see who is listening and if they will get a response.
Interesting side note:
While at work last night, I was text messaged 8 or more times by a tenant irate at me because:
1: She informed me she was going to move out 7-22, but then couldn't get into her new house in Lexington due to the cost of moving and deposits. She wanted me to continue her lease, which Kentucky Housing(Safe Havens Program) pays but they would not because she had failed to pay her gas bill and it was cut off.
2: She was very sweet when asking me if she could stay but turned back to her true color when she asked for extra time to get their things out of the house and I told her a per diem of $25 per day would be charged.
3: She wanted to live rent free, which she had been doing off our tax money already, and went postal(no offense to Mark on here, lol)
4: Then the usual tactics of downgrading the house and other insults and four letter words followed. Of course the house needed some attention after they lived there but my maintenance people hated to go there because she was a total (5 letter word inserted).
5: The house was and is for sale when she moved in and all the realtors that showed the house told me how rude and uncooperative this lady was. So I am was happy to hear they would be leaving.
I could go on but the funny part of the whole thing is while she was ranting and raving, cussing via text messaging she told me that I was harrassing her and she would have me in court. The guys at work were cracking up and saying how glad they didn't have rental property or actuallly have to deal with A hole tenants like that.
I did reply via text that I would send a copy of her rantings to her case worker to let them know what kind of person she is and that I did not think my tax money should go to support someone like that.
There is so much more I could relate such as most of the children were not living with them,(hmmmm wonder why???) Neither of them could hold a job so our tax dollars support them to live free because they have X amount of children. Our system really sucks when it comes to that. There should not be a reward for having children, but our system works on that premise. Ok enough ranting from me. lol

Thankfully when I drove by late afternoon, they were loading up their belongings.

Chuck
August 2nd, 2008, 12:46 PM
SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!

Yes you are right, I wish I knew how to edit a poll. Where are you CHUCK? lol

LOL 2 family emergencies and you know of one of them. The other was an issue with my dad.

landlord
August 2nd, 2008, 05:14 PM
LOL 2 family emergencies and you know of one of them. The other was an issue with my dad.

I hope your Dad is doing well Chuck. If you need anything let me know. And thanks for the visit to the beach. I know it was out of the way but it was very appreciated.