Do you know?

[landlord]

Reading over the previous thread on LGBT issues in the current political race I began to wonder how many people actually know some of the LGBT community.

[Youdontknowme]

I think the BBS should get a LGBT personal section like the classifieds.

[tkcomer]

I've known gay people. Didn't really run with them as their hobbies tend to be different than mine. Then again, my hobbies doesn't really coincide with the majority of people. They do have a different take on things, or so it seems to me. I like hearing that. Makes me think. I do feel they are not wanted if they are outside "certain" areas around here. It's a shame really. The ones I've run into had a heck of a sense of humor. Then again, maybe they need that for this area.

[landlord]

I wish there were more here or at least felt free to be themselves. I know I would love to have more as renters. The places are kept nice, smell good and usually look better when they move out. :)

[braydonsmom]

*raises hand*

Here's one.. here's one....

[glenda]

it shouldnt matter to anyone other then to couple

[Brian K Beckett]

*raises hand*

Here's one.. here's one....


And I thought I was a brave one for announcing I was an athiest!




I found this site while doing research on another subject but I saw this portion and found it odd as to how they obtained this information.


Likely homosexual households (counted as self-reported same-sex unmarried-partner households)
Lesbian couples: 0.2% of all households
Gay men: 0.1% of all households

http://www.city-data.com/city/Maysville-Kentucky.html

This site has some interesting information on the area.


Landlord:
I know two maybe three gay men from the area and 6 Gay women from the area and about 16 bisexual females. I find that of the gay guys I know they fall into the typical stereotype profile of gay guys Techno music, flamboyant, and well groomed. Which by the way I can not stand to be around for longer then a minuite (because of the stereo type not the preference) And have a blast being around the Lesbian women I know. Lesbians and myself I find enjoy many of the same things such as music, activities and of course women.

[landlord]

*raises hand*

Here's one.. here's one....

Great, if you are ever looking for place to rent or even to purchase I would love to help you out.
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Landlord:
I know two maybe three gay men from the area and 6 Gay women from the area and about 16 bisexual females. I find that of the gay guys I know they fall into the typical stereotype profile of gay guys Techno music, flamboyant, and well groomed. Which by the way I can not stand to be around for longer then a minuite (because of the stereo type not the preference) And have a blast being around the Lesbian women I know. Lesbians and myself I find enjoy many of the same things such as music, activities and of course women.

That is very interesting Brian. Of the 6 OUT gay men I know in the area, they are not the stereotypical sort, very blue collar or white collar types. I can honestly say I don't know for sure about any women whether they are bi or gay. Then there is the whole closeted gay and bi culture who are either married or work in a career that looks down on the issue. I think women have it a little easier because they can show affection in public more openly than men, gay or straight.
I am sure you and your lesbian friends have a blast checking out all the ladies and comparing notes, the competition could get rough. lol
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it shouldnt matter to anyone other then to couple

I think you are lucky enough to find love, you better take the effort to nourish it. Love is a gift or as the Bible says:
"Love is long suffering,
love is kind,
it is not jealous,
love does not boast,
it is not inflated.

It is not discourteous,
it is not selfish,
it is not irritable,
it does not enumerate the evil.
It does not rejoice over the wrong, but rejoices in the truth

It covers all things,
it has faith for all things,
it hopes in all things,
it endures in all things.

Love never falls in ruins; "

[TheMan]

While I don't agree that there should be a personal section for straight or gay people. I have met many openly homosexual people. 90% are good people trying to make a living of course there are always a few that give all the stereo types merit.

[mistersinister]

to each his/her own. i know and have known several gays/lesbians/bisexuals and others. we all get along well because they know that as long as they dont hit on me we're cool. and yes i have been hit on by several gays to which my reply is always, "I'm flattered, but I am straight." I dont see the need of getting upset about it all. Do what you want behind closed doors, that's the closest anyone will get to a supposed paradise in the sky. hedonism rules!!!! but in all seriousness, most of the gays and lesbians I have met are really cool people, some are stereotypical some are not. i see no reason why they shouldnt have their own area here on BBS. this is America after all and for awhile we still have some freedoms. . . .but for how long. . . . . who knows?

[Jeremy]

I have a gay cat. Does that count?

[landlord]

I think the BBS should get a LGBT personal section like the classifieds.

Doesn't that just promote the stereotype that the LGBT want special treatment? No matter who you are, what you are, what nationality you are or what color you are, if you are living in a community you are a part of it. When we start separating/segregating at any level, it leads to eventual chaos.
I think if someone wants it known that they are LGBT or just friendly and open minded they could have an icon or symbol that relays that info. Just a thought.
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While I don't agree that there should be a personal section for straight or gay people. I have met many openly homosexual people. 90% are good people trying to make a living of course there are always a few that give all the stereo types merit.

Heck that is better odds than that of the straight people I know. lol

[Foxy]

My belief is simple... gays had as much a choice in their sexuality decision as straight people do.... meaning that if you are straight, you prolly never thought otherwise, it was just natural for you to be that way.... same for gays....
Why would a person CHOOSE to be any way that could cause so much grief?
If gays want to be married and miserable like the rest of us, who are we to say no?
I mean really... what are people worries about? That they are going to convert others?? SERIOUSLY?!?!?!

[kcredden]

I was one who voted the 'know many' section. In the last 16 or so years since being on the net, I've learned and made friends with bis, gay males,TGs, and lesbians.

Theman is right; There is many (probably 99%) of such people are just like you and I. But that 1% who stereotype the entire group. But then, think of this. Africans in the 70s called caucasians 'Honkey' and of course they in turn called them the 'N' word. In any group, there is good people, then a small minority that people fixate upon that gives the entire good group a bad name.


I've seen this in the sci-fi fandom (and subdivide that into the Star Wars, Star Trek, B5, etc fandoms.), Comicfandom, even religious folks. In essence ANY group of people, you will find a few bad apples. People then fixate upon the weird-os, and make the others appear like they're ALL like that. It's especially bad when outfits that influence people like the press, TV, movies and such take those rotting apples, and make a big case over it. (one reason why anymore I think the ONLY newspaper with true journalistic integrity a fictional one called the Daily Planet)


I've got many good friends from this group of people. One - I'd consider one of my best friends is a G/Isurgeon I met on the Usenet about 15 years ago. Married a good 30 years. Both are excellent folks. Has one minor problem; they have a fixation on cats bordering on obsession (Not to mention his wife's voracious reading habit as well). They have 8 cats now, and it's all they can do to not bring another one home :) I've gone to many sci-fi cons with him, being in the same room with him, and her. (without the cats though :) and gone on many trips.

There is a TG friend of mine, whom I've met several times at a computer con. She is one of the most intelligent people I ever met. We've had many discussions on physics, space, and astronomy. She is a M2F post operational (according to her, I don't check the facts :), and working on her Ph'd. Her orientation? I have no idea really, it never came up and frankly it doesn't bother me to know. She's African also I might add.

I have lesser lesbians, bi, gay and TG friends. Met them, been in the same hotel room with them. From what I seen they're just like me. We have our own hates, loves, desires, humor. In other words - we're basically the same.

I've also seen Dr. Who, and Torch wood, the shows from the BBC, showing interracial relationships, and of course Capt. Jack's relationships too. Capt. Jack sounds like someone I'd like to meet. For he sounds like a really fun person to be around. Witty, caring, friendly, compassionate. A natural leader, not to mention highly intelligent.


I'm on Second Life, and when I meet a new person (or avatar) I follow the same thing; I consider the new person as an equal. Only after I've known them for awhile will I judge them by their actions. A gorgeous female may be a snake, and a girl that's so hideously ugly may be the most kindest person you ever met. You never know until you get to know them.


- Kc

Addendium: Sorry for the underlined bold words. Google's spellchecker has a serious problem :\

[anb_swrk]

landlord do you only have rental property in maysville??? Oh and as everyone knows ... I am a proud member of the LGBT community! :-) So to all the others out there, if you ever need to talk PM me!
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I think it's funny to see the stereo types that ppl have, there are typically a lot, but so many of us LGBT look "normal" lol .... the flamboyant and butch stereotypes are held to their name at times, but a lot of times you would be oh so surprised!

[Brian K Beckett]

I mean really... what are people worries about? That they are going to convert others?? SERIOUSLY?!?!?!


I actually think some (a lot) of "straight" people think that if a "gay" person was to hit on them, they might actually say yes.


I read an artical a few years ago about why many women are so judgemental tworeds other women like how they dress, wear make up, or even how other women walk, this artical was written by some phycholigist that was claiming the reason for this tention between other women is that because some high percentage of women had an unconcious attraction to other women and that by being judgemental of them was a way of mentaly dealing with it from years of society teaching that it was wrong or unnatural.

Things that make you go HUM!!!

[anb_swrk]

I believe too that the old saying "guilty by association," freaks a lot of ppl out too.

[JRbickley]

I actually think some (a lot) of "straight" people think that if a "gay" person was to hit on them, they might actually say yes.


I read an artical a few years ago about why many women are so judgemental tworeds other women like how they dress, wear make up, or even how other women walk, this artical was written by some phycholigist that was claiming the reason for this tention between other women is that because some high percentage of women had an unconcious attraction to other women and that by being judgemental of them was a way of mentaly dealing with it from years of society teaching that it was wrong or unnatural.

Things that make you go HUM!!!

If thats true then my wife has a lot of women that want her. I think its more like guys give her to much attention because she's not a pain and she's easy on the eyes and other women can't stand it. I'am not a Phycholigist but she is, I might ask her about it.

[Brian K Beckett]

I believe too that the old saying "guilty by association," freaks a lot of ppl out too.


A funny story from a few years back

A small group of guys I worked with had just found out that this other guy was gay that we had known for quite a while and while we were talking about it the only guy in this group that isint really a fan so to speak of gay people made the comment "I didnt know he was gay, he never hit on me"
I laughed at him and said "well maybe you were not his type." Then we got a few good laughs for a while because he was upset that he didnt get hit on.
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If thats true then my wife has a lot of women that want her. I think its more like guys give her to much attention because she's not a pain and she's easy on the eyes and other women can't stand it. I'am not a Phycholigist but she is, I might ask her about it.

I dont know if its true or not I just thought it was interesting.

But maybe my wife fits into the catagory of the judgemental woman. She is alway saying about other women "Just because they make it in your size doesent mean you should wear it"

But I dont that comment and exactly what she is commenting about is the same type of judgemenal women in the artical.:attention:

[landlord]

landlord do you only have rental property in maysville??? Oh and as everyone knows ... I am a proud member of the LGBT community! :-) So to all the others out there, if you ever need to talk PM me!

anb_swrk, Most of my houses and apartments are in Maysville, a couple in western Mason county.
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A funny story from a few years back

A small group of guys I worked with had just found out that this other guy was gay that we had known for quite a while and while we were talking about it the only guy in this group that isint really a fan so to speak of gay people made the comment "I didnt know he was gay, he never hit on me"
I laughed at him and said "well maybe you were not his type." Then we got a few good laughs for a while because he was upset that he didnt get hit on.


Mankind is an interesting breed for sure. We are all for or all against something until more information is disseminated and then we begin to take a closer look at others and ourselves. We want what we can't have and when we have the chance to attain it, we are scared, frightened, threatened or embarassed to have ever felt this or that.
Statistics show same sex attraction is common from childhood and on through adult life for some. If you polled the population I am sure you would be shocked at the number of innocent childhood experimentations that would be admitted to and even more so the number of youth, early and later adults that have either thought about it or actually experimented or regularly partake of same sex relationships.
If you ask the LGBT community, I think you will find sexual encounters are as empty there as with the straight community. There are oddities we all know but people are 99.9% the same and everyone is looking for frienship, companionship and a connection with SOMEONE. You can deny who you are and what you are looking for but you will never be happy and that is no way to live.
So if you are STRAIGHT/LGBT/RED/YELLOW/BLACK OR WHITE, be proud and live, love and be happy.
I have heard this in church and in business, "Only in service to others, can we be truly happy and successful". I think it applies in every area of life.
What do you think?

[Chuck]

I see by this thread I now more Gay people and "CATS" than I thought. I only for sure knew one, Mr. Landlord. I never knew the "Political Correct Term" for him so I chose not to label him and call him my FRIEND. Now that I know the "Political Correct Term" it doesn't change a thing.

A persons race, religion, creed, political or sexual preference does not define an individual in my eyes. Look at the person then decide if they are a friend. The rest is just information.

[landlord]

I see by this thread I now more Gay people and "CATS" than I thought. I only for sure knew one, Mr. Landlord. I never knew the "Political Correct Term" for him so I chose not to label him and call him my FRIEND. Now that I know the "Political Correct Term" it doesn't change a thing.

A persons race, religion, creed, political or sexual preference does not define an individual in my eyes. Look at the person then decide if they are a friend. The rest is just information.

Exactly the point Chuck, no one every knows for sure so why must there be a label attached? I like your term much better, "friend". That is all that matters, if you know the person or have known the person for a long time.... nothing has changed. I kind of look at it as an added bonus, a new topic of discussion in this monotonous world we live in.
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What it has come down to for most LGBT is the reverse of the military's "DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL" policy. Don't tell anyone, unless they ask. (This for fear of a negative reaction or worse.)
Of course there are those who are going to fly their flag high or have their purse fall out of their mouth as soon as they open it but on the other hand there are those who choose to keep a low profile either by choice or because that is their nature.

The disappointing thing is that as a Christian we are supposed to grow in wisdom, love and compassion on a daily basis through scripture and through study. The majority have read or been told a certain passage time after time, year after year and have never had a thought of their own or taken the time to discover the context or take into account the time in which it was written. And anyone person/releigion who feels they have the final authority to judge or condemn is only condemning themselves according to scripture.
The fact is, a person can take any scripture out of context, find any study written by someone with the same conviction and make a case for their belief, action or even crime. So it all comes down to the individual. If the person is of good character and demeanor, if so that is all that matters. As you say Chuck, if I can call that person "FRIEND", that is what I am most grateful for.

[landlord]

Michelle Obama Connects the Dots
June 27th, 2008 · No Comments
Faith In America today praised Michelle Obama for connecting the historical dots of discrimination and prejudice for Americans in a speech yesterday in New York.

The wife of Democratic Presidential Nominee U.S. Sen. Barack Obama stated during the speech that African-Americans and gay and lesbian citizens have marched on the journey toward full equality.

“We are all only here because of those who marched and bled and died, from Selma to Stonewall, in the pursuit of a more perfect union,” she was quoted to say in an Associated Press article.

Brent Childers. executive director of Faith In America, today thanked Michelle Obama for recognizing that history holds a valuable lesson for the pursuit of equality in America.

“When Michelle Obama makes that connection, it will eventually lead Americans to recognize religion-based prejudice and discrimination as the commonality of not only injustices against African-Americans and the gay and lesbian community but also women, interracial couples as well as religious minorities.

“The California Supreme Court in its recent ruling on marriage equality made that same connection…that deep-seated prejudice within majoritarian institutions cannot stand as a barrier to social justice.”

[landlord]

WOW, I guess I didn't know how many LGBT people there were in the area.

It is interesting and sad that so many people feel the need to stay closeted due to their career, social position, or just fear that they will be ostracized by family, friends or the church.