Sheriff Boggs gets his man

[ponto]

A major step forward in the case of an abused cat at the Germantown Fair.

As many of you know, a cat was assaulted and left for dead during an incident at the Fair.

Thanks to some concerned citizens and a local vet, the cat is doing well.

And now the rest of the story.

Mason County Sheriff Patrick Boggs has made an arrest and the suspect has a court date.

Congratulations to all who helped with this case. Mason County will no longer tolerate cruelty to animals.

Read more in the Ledger (http://www.maysville-online.com/articles/2007/08/09/local_news/2202cat.txt)

[STEPH75WALKER]

Thanks Patrick!! Finally Justice For Our Animals! I Hope Lewisburg CAN Catch Our Animal Killer And Bring Them To Justice.

[tbplayer]

thats great, now if we just wouldnt tolerate abortion, child abuse, drugs (which a blind eye seems to be turning to) How about Justice period!

[Maxwells]

I am glad they got him...I hope the cat is doing fine..

[kcredden]

Good work! May the convicted perp hang

- Kc

[Guest]

Lets hope the court system follows through with the max sentence.

[kybikertrash]

I am glad they caught him, but...and there's always a "big but"... would it be too much to ask local law enforcement to catch the drug pushers that people are reporting. Nothing seems to be getting done about that?

[gleroyjr]

I AGREE WITH KYBIKERTRASH, THE DURG PUSHERS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN A CAT.

[TheMan]

Perceptions are misleading.... and your right.. it's just a cat..

[Bengals_Mama]

Found this online:

In 1997 Boston's Northeastern University and the MSPCA did a study that found 70% of all animal abusers have committed at least 1 other crime and that 40% had committed violent crimes against humans.

Studies also found that a history of animal abuse was found in 25% of male criminals, 30% of convicted child molesters, 36% of domestic violence cases and 46% of homicide cases.

30% of convicted child molesters and 48% of convicted rapists admitted animal cruelty in their childhood.

In 2000, 7% of animal cruelty cases involved child abuse. The perpetrators either abused the children or force them to witness the cruelty to animals. 13% of the animal cruelty cases involved domestic abuse. And 1% of animal cruelty cases involved elder abuse.

[ponto]

Perceptions are misleading.... and your right.. it's just a cat..

Good point, but you must remember that the tip of an iceberg looks like an ice cube to the captain of a ship.


Bengals_Mama has the big picture, thanks for sharing that info.


I AGREE WITH KYBIKERTRASH, THE DURG PUSHERS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN A CAT.

This is Maysville, we should have time for both.

If you want to solve the "durg" problem, just lace the confiscated "durgs" with a poison and put them back on the street. The "durgies" will solve the problem all by themselves. Then the pushers won't have any customers.

[bdr]

It was "just a cat" huh....
I know of a feller who started with just cats and dogs a few years back, his name was Jeffrey Dahmer.

BDR

[mark]

It was "just a cat" huh....
I know of a feller who started with just cats and dogs a few years back, his name was Jeffrey Dahmer.

BDR

..............good point! .........see ya mark

[Bonkers]

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated”
Mahatma Gandhi

[LaDy RoYaLs MoM]

Regardless of whether it was a cat, dog, or rat, nothing would have been done had there not been people calling the sheriffs office giving them the information that was needed. Its not like there was a big investigation into anything!! I believe that whoever abuses animals needs to be punished to the max, I know that if it were my animal I would want the max done but Im with gleroyjr, go for the drug pushers and get these drugs out of our schools and away from our kids. You caught a cat abuser, good job, pat yourself on the back but put our tax money to work on getting rid of the drugs, I honestly believe that there are people out there who think that we do not have a drug problem in Maysville/Mason County and if you believe that, you are soooo sadly mistaken.

[kybikertrash]

Yeah, but if you lace the drugs with poison, aren't you guilty of a crime? Then you are likely to be prosecuted. Just like a homeowner that shoots a burgler during a robbery.

I'm not really saying "it's just a cat". Lady Royals Mom pointed out that this wasn't a big investigation. Apparantly the police were tipped off and the guilty person was then arrested. That is how a community should work together with the police.

But I also know of a person who has spoke to several police officers about drug deals going on in his neighborhood at a specific house, and nothing has been done. So why can't a report of a drug dealer get the same attention a cat abuser gets?

[TheMan]

Because cat abusers don't require much investigation. However a drug investigation can take days or months depending on how complex the situation is. It really doesn't do much good to explain why the police aren't doing anything. An hour is to long for most.

Look in your local court dockets. People say nothing is being done by the police about the drug problem. I say that isn't true. Several are arrested each day/ week. It's the court system that is failing our community by letting them out on insufficent bonds, not holding them to bond conditions and when they are convicted, letting them out on shock with less than 10% time served.

But this thread is not about the dreaded drug problem... It about our fine Sheriff's department and the work they do in our community. Better yet it's about the example of people working hand and hand with law enforcement to solve a problem.

[LaDy RoYaLs MoM]

kybikertrash I know where you are coming from and I think you know where I am coming from but other than that, it looks like we are all alone.

[kybikertrash]

Okay, I checked the court dockets. Big list for Monday.....3 pages on the website. Same 'ol, same 'ol, driving with no insurance, on suspended license, speeding, failure to wear seat belt, dui, resisting arrest, fourth degree assault, terroristing threatening, lots of those, especially that "failure to wear a seat belt"....oh wait, theres two people charged with possession of drug paraphern 2nd, and 2 charges of possession of marijuana. Three pages, court will be a busy place Monday, just not busy putting away drug pushers or users for that matter. BTW the cat torturer will be there Monday.

I don't know about you, but I am more worried about my child comming into contact with someone who is not wearing their seat belt than I am the neighborhood drug pusher. I hope they throw the book at those non-seat belt wearing people.

Also, I would say it is safe to say that more people die from alcohol related accidents (including alcohol poisoning) than marijuana overdoses.

I read the court dockets online regularly, I haven't really noticed many people being hauled in for dealing drugs. I have the website on my favotrites list. It's a wealth of information. kycourts.net

[TheMan]

Circuit, not District. Marijuana possession and Rx not in proper container is the only thing your going to find in District Court. Sorry should have made myself more clear... But the point is moot...

But again, this is about cats, not drugs.. Good job M.C.S.O.

[kybikertrash]

You're right. I didn't select the right court. I see a few poss. of cs but if we can catch people with it, why can't figure out where they are getting it? We need to go right to the top.

I remember a few years ago when there was a woman arrested for possession and trafficking. It was the biggest coke bust in Maysville history, yet I believe today she is already out of prison. Correct me if I am wrong. I know the jails are over-crowded but if we really put it to these people maybe they will give up the top dog and the crime rate will go down. I really believe that most crimes committed are drug related.

[TheMan]

Long Jail sentences are reserved for those who are deemed dangerous to society. Meaning violent offenses stay in jail longer, not as a deterent but as a preventitive measure. While you and I probably agree that drug dealers are just as dangerous, our elected state and national representitives do not think that way. Unless, it directly effects them, it is not a concern to keep them jailed, and more economic to release them back into society.

This has two disatrious effects.. One, there is not measures taken, nor the time to correct in the short time they are in jail. And two.. Like anything else, if you now it's illegal, but you know also that the returns are worth far more than the penalties why stop doing it?

Drugs are a scurge on our society... most crimes are that of passion or for means of obtaining or controling drugs.. Yet the people who repesent us refuse to do anything to correct the problem. It's easy to blame the police, heck they may be partialy at fault. I think of it this way, if you had cockroaches in your house, you paid an exterminator to get rid of them, spent your own time making your home pest proof, devoted countless hours to ridding yourself of that plauge.. yet they still return.. What would you do? Give up? Move to another home? Or just live with it? Either way the problem never gets solved. The police put these people in jail, and by the time the inks dried on all the paperwork they have to do, the offender walks out smiling. [/RANT]

Wonder if the cat was on drugs?

[kybikertrash]

I think the cat WAS on drugs....after all it was hanging around the fair everyday. It was either on drugs or insane....no sane being, human or not, would hang around the fair everyday...would they???

[TheMan]

IT may have been there for the mud sling... so.. yeah you're prolly right~

[bubbysgarage]

Now now wait just a minute bout the hanging round the fair thingy. I was there on 2 different nights, Wednesday for the 4-wheeler drag race (which my hubby won his class) and on Sat for the Mud Sling (which we just won't go there I was in a bad mood after it was all said and done with and I can prove that one ;)) it wasn't bad this year. Granted I wasn't there every single night but this year didn't seem to have the turn out that it has had in the past. Maybe the heat kept the "sane" people indoors I don't know. But it shoudn't matter whether the cat was on drugs or insane. Maybe it was the fairs mascot this year?

[DecupldSolutions]

It is good the animal abuser is caught and made to face a penalty. Jail time might be a little excessive. Jail space and tax dollars can be used better. Maybe a heavy fine added to the public humiliation he is receiving would be sufficient. Animal abuse in any form should not be tolerated and we tip our hat to the sheriff and community for discouraging this behavior.

Particularly interesting are the statistics sighting murders and animal abusers. Percentages can be highly suspect and easily manipulated. But no society should tolerate this behavior.

The drug problem is created by prohibition and the huge profits from a black market created by close minded legislation.

To "solve" the problem requires and open mind.

http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php

"LEAP is a drug law reform organization that believes legalized regulation is the only ethical and efficient way to undo the damage caused by the War on Drugs. Decriminalization will create a system in which the criminal market is allowed to thrive with little or no intervention from law enforcement. LEAP believes that this will only exacerbate currently existing crime and violence problems. Legalized regulation would result in a system in which the sale and distribution of drugs is regulated by a government body similar to the regulation of alcohol and tobacco, thereby inhibiting, and eventually removing, the criminal monopoly on the sale of current illicit drugs.

LEAP does support incremental change, which the organization believes ultimately betters the lives of United States citizens. LEAP has supported bills which would decriminalize up to one ounce of marijuana, legalize medical marijuana, and implement harm reduction strategies in communities. According to LEAP, their support for incremental change does not conflict with their stance on legalization because they see these steps as means to an end, not ends in themselves."

Or should we just complain and stay on the same course with no proposed solution or end in sight?

http://www.ssdp.org/

"Students for Sensible Drug Policy neither encourages nor condemns drug use. Rather, we seek to reduce the harms caused by drug abuse and drug policies. As young people, we strive toward a just and compassionate society where drug abuse is treated as a health issue instead of a criminal justice issue. We recognize that the very real harms of drug abuse are not adequately addressed by current policies and we advocate measures that would effectively help those who develop drug problems. Yet, we also believe that individuals must ultimately be allowed to make decisions for themselves as long as their actions do not infringe upon anyone else’s freedoms or safety.

Because the War on Drugs has historically been justified as necessary to protect youth, it is our responsibility as young people to stop this harmful war from being waged in our names any longer. As scholars, we seek solutions to society's drug problems through focused research, honest dialogue, and informed debate, instead of unquestioned extremism, punishment, and propaganda."

Or is this "war" upon "cockroaches" the way we prefer to work?

[Guest]

Maybe as punishment the guy should pay the vet bill or make a donations to the Mason County Animal Shelter and work community service at the shelter shoveling and hosing .

[TheMan]

I can see it now.. A the local crackhead going to the bar to get a hit.. What a world~

I'm sure that if he's found guilty the judge would make him pay the same amount of the bill to some worthy cause.. But don't see much jail time in his future.

[DecupldSolutions]

Heard the young man was taken to jail after the docket. Could be wrong. A healthy fine will be nice to see. Application of the money could be to any good cause.

About the local crack head and such. Not sure that is exactly what we are trying accomplish here. So, that scenario would be unlikely. You know that better than any...

Obviously the details need to be worked out. The goal is to get an open forum to work the details out, rationally.

Expert clinical studies and physician input can show the opposite of what traditional propaganda disseminates as fact. When pure substances are tested. That is not to say a coke habit is healthy, productive or encouraged. Black markets introduce all sorts of opportunity for bad combinations, cutting fillers, and impure deadly substances. The interest here is in harm reduction through education and treatment of the existing problem.

Crack is a subclass of scheduled substance. It is made from cocaine. If the cocaine can be monitored, the black market can be controlled by economy of scale and the issues may be better managed.

It would be possible to maintain the current scheduling system and restructure the response to issue. With the exception that all plant material be removed from schedule 1 classification.

Either way, it won't be easy. But it is time to start trying different approaches. A war is not the way to fix the problem.

Wonder if the cat was on drugs?

Catnip is not scheduled. ;) ....yet....

[Chuck]

Fill me in, the War on Drugs has what to do with animal abuse?

[guest]

Maybe it was just a cat to some of you , but it could actually lead to more serious crimes in the future. I know of a person who told me they buried a cat up to its head and ran over it with a lawn mower, he was a young boy at the time. He became an addict and an abuser of women. Maybe by catching this guy, and making him pay for his actions will help him in the long run.

[snowtiger]

GREAT POINT CHUCK!! I can't say anything about this crime because everyone that knows me KNOWS that I only have very bad words to say and Chuck won't let me say them. %$#@&*(^*&*&@#

[Chuck]

OK Snowtiger, Calm down and back slowly away from the keyboard.....

[kcredden]

Sometimes I think this is the best punishment. Many may not give a toot about going to jail. BUT if they have to pay a heavy fine, do community work, etc. then it may help.

I think at times we more interested in the stick instead of the carrot.

I have strong feelings on animal abuse yes. (Don't get me started on the book; Black Beauty - it was an eye opener) but as it's been said, give a man a fish, you'll feed him for a day, teach him to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Maybe we should start looking at ways to teach responsibility and respect. What say he had to work at the humain shelter for a few months under supervision? Show that cats and dogs arn't something to be kicked around and just maybe the perp can also see them as a friend, not a punching bag.
Remember how dogs and cats are used in nursing homes, and other situations? I also think that ones such as the alleged perp, may need some sort of light therapy, or guidience.

It's an idea that suddenly popped in my head, but I think all ideas are based on something we perceved, or saw in the past.

Thoughts?

- Kc

Maybe as punishment the guy should pay the vet bill or make a donations to the Mason County Animal Shelter and work community service at the shelter shoveling and hosing .

Careful Chuck: You don't try to make nice, with a teed-off black panther...or snow leopard in this case. They have claws you know? :)

- Kc

OK Snowtiger, Calm down and back slowly away from the keyboard.....

[F_Farkell]

OK Snowtiger, Calm down and back slowly away from the keyboard.....

Here.... I would probably recommend some Prozac.:fear:

But that would stir the whole drug thingy. LOL:drum:

[TheMan]

I've managed to stay on topic to some extent during this whole thread.... :P

Hope the poor poor cat is doing better....

[snowtiger]

ok, I'm ok. I'm glad the cat is better too!! I really would love to run into him though.