Can Amy Baker Get a Fair Trial in Mason County?

[Chuck]

With all the media coverage and all the chatter on this site, can Amy Baker receive a fair trial in Mason County for her charges?

We live in a society that stands for Innocent till proved guilty but is all that thrown out the window with Baker because she opening admitted her part in the crime under an immunity deal.

Tell us your thoughts.

[BADBOY]

I'm with the poll. She doesn't deserve a fair trial.

[TheMan]

Even though she is sub-human, she still deserves a fair trial... Which she will not get in Mason County..

[Maxwells]

I don't think she deserves a fair trial...this would not be a good example if she is just slapped on the hand and even given a year for what she has done. I know people that have gotten years in prison under a lesser crime than what she I believe was involved with.

[frybaby]

Everybody deserves a fair trial, regardless of the crime. But it would be hard for a compassionate person, after hearing Amy Baker admit to her part in this scheme, to be in favor of a lenient sentence. So although I think she can get a fair trial in Mason County, I don't think Kentucky will be as merciful as Ohio obviously was. We should thank God that somebody found a loophole to avoid Amy's complete release from this horrendous crime. And we should just hope she never regains custody of her own children!

[Maryalis]

It really is a farce of a system because I know first hand that you are judged by the public as well as by the system guilty until proven innocent. I'm not sidding with her or her issues I'm just saying that I know that the version that one is taught is not the one that is practiced in reality!

[Jeremy]

If they call me up for jury duty, and eleven other people who are not interested in the hype, yep.

[Brian K Beckett]

I think she can get a fair trial. Everyone does. But if she is found guilty will she get the appropriate sentence?
I know a juror is not supposed to read or watch news or discuss a open case with anyone. But I believe that if jurors look at only the evidence she will get a fair trial.
I don't think I will comment on what I think if she is guilty. I don't think I can be polite enough about it for this site.

[mark]

..........probably.
For the time she'll probably get....

It's still as waste of taxpayers $$ ..........see ya mark

[bubbysgarage]

Its getting late and I goofed on the poll I said that she would get a fair trial and meant to put that I don't think she will. I have to say that I do not think she will get a fair trial (although that is what she deserves) because of all the media attention and what was openly said in Ohio. In my mind yes she is guilty but untill she is proven so by the court system she is inocent. I am just waiting to see how this all plays out.

[Flame]

Can she get a fair trial? I believe there is a possiblity due to the fact I feel there are 12 people in Mason County that would listen to the facts and and not have prejudged her. Will they find those 12 people? Probablly not. Do I care if she gets a fair trial, NO. Why? Because Marcus did not get anything that was fair to him. His mother wasn't fair to him, the foster care system failed him, his foster parents failed him. So why in the world would anyone think this woman deserves to be free everyday of her life and not pay for her part in the crimes. I say crimes because there were multiple and she is going to never pay for part of them. Like the fact she us up to eyeballs and beyond in the actual murder of that child. Actually she should be so happy that this little part she played, although very heinous, is the only part she will ever have on her record. She could be serving life for the murder.

As far as a waste of taxdollars which seems to be the only thing some people are concerned with, since I work in Maysville I do pay Maysville and Mason Co. taxes so I give my permission to use my tax dollars for this. Maybe they can use others tax dollars for something else. I can assure you there are tax dollars wasted on lesser things in Mason County and for that matter everyother county in Kentucky. I just feel Marcus and every other little child in this area deserves to know that woman is behind bars and can't hurt them for at least the period of time, no matter how little that is, she is locked up.

Just my opinion. And as Forrest would say, that's all of got to say about that.

[Chuck]

The poll would be more accurate f the guest that keeps coming back with the same IP address would quit vote yes each time. He/she has accounted for 10 or the YES votes. I will subtract them later.

[chevy]

Keeping my opinion of the woman out of this particular thread, I wonder what a fair trial is in this case. Is it innocent until proven guilty or guilty by her own admission? I mean she admitted it. Doesn't that prove guilt?

On a seperate note, I wonder who the guest is that keeps voting yes?

[TheMan]

It amazes me.. All the 'She don't deserve a fair trail' Votes....

[hawk43]

i think she should get what the carrols got cause she was in on it also and she should never be able to be around kids anymore cause its hard telling what she will do to them i was pretty upset when i heard the news about marcus cause i got kids of my own and if someone done something like that to my kids u dagon right i would be in the court room making a statement about what her and the carrols did to that poor little boy cause i was one of the people that help build that memorial where they burned his body and all i could think about was my children and marcus nobody deserves to be treated that way not even kids .

[dpolley]

Let's see....She admitted her guilt, thinking that she was in the clear in Ohio. Now we're asking if she deserves a fair trial? "Law logic" aside - this is a case that would have been served well in the 1800's (get a rope!). Hanging is too good for this "person" (and I use the term very loosely). No one who has a shred of decency would do what these people did to a child. The bleeding hearts who think that people like this deserve a fair trial should seriously re-think their stance on this subject. If you admit guilt be prepared to suffer serious consequences. I'd buy the rope to hang her with.

[TheMan]

I am far from a bleeding heart.. And I think she deserves the due process that every American has a right to...

[chevy]

It amazes me.. All the 'She don't deserve a fair trail' Votes....

I think many people voted based off emotion.

[Maxwells]

The poll would be more accurate f the guest that keeps coming back with the same IP address would quit vote yes each time. He/she has accounted for 10 or the YES votes. I will subtract them later.

:)LOL...That funny Chuck...track them IP's

[dpolley]

I am far from a bleeding heart.. And I think she deserves the due process that every American has a right to...

I certainly respect your opinion; please respect mine...

[TheMan]

No disrespect intended.....Just stating an obvious....

[Flame]

I have a question. Now if she pleads not guilty does she then commit perjury in the Ohio case? Not that I think they will or am I saying this to start folks on wanting her charged with that, but was just a thought that popped into my idle mind. My day off and don't have to think real hard so my mind can be a little idle.

[chevy]

Flame, I was wondering the same thing. The Ledger said she plead not guilty, so now what?

[bubbysgarage]

Good point never thought of it that way. Hum glad my trips to cincy are over now and I can get back to my ol' self on here (no comments required).

[TheMan]

She can not commit perjury by entering a plea...

[Jeremy]

To perjure you have to be under oath anyway. They don't swear you in during pretrial.

[bubbysgarage]

Never had the opportunity (knock on wood) so this is a learning experience for me.

[Flame]

My too bubby. I was wondering about that as like you I've not had to worry about this stuff myself. But now if she goes to trial and testifies that she don't dispose of the remains off the bridge then she perjures herself, right?

[TheMan]

Not in Mason Court she wouldn't. She has made no statements, under oath, in our court. I don't think you'll see that angle as a defense from her lawyers. Her defense will revolve around the scared little girl who willing helped the Ohio authorities and who's now being screwed by Kentucky.

[Flame]

Not in Mason Court she wouldn't. She has made no statements, under oath, in our court. I don't think you'll see that angle as a defense from her lawyers. Her defense will revolve around the scared little girl who willing helped the Ohio authorities and who's now being screwed by Kentucky.

What I had asked was when/if this goes to trial in Mason County and when she is under oath and IF she says she didn't help dispose of the bodies then she would have perjured herself in Ohio. Correct. Not that anything will be done and I'm not saying I think it should I'm just asking if that is the case. I don't really care if she does or does not perjure herself I'm just trying to learn something.

[TheMan]

IF you testify under oath in one court of law, you are subject to purjury laws in every court.

[kreed2000]

Please define fair, did Marcus get a fair shot at a longer life? Was it fair to him how they burned his dead body and through it in the Ohio River? Was it fair that he didn't even get treated right with the system before he died? Was it fair he died a slow death tied up in a closet while his foster family was enjoying a trip that he should have went on with them? The question is why should she get a fair trial when she knew what she was doing was wrong. She should have went to the police and reported this before she went and got involved with tampering with evidence. Shouldn't they also charge her with abuse of a courpse? I can't see her getting away with this. She is GUILTY and she along with everyone else knows this. She should be put in a cell the same size as the closet Marcus died in and rot for the rest of her life. Stop dragging this out in court and get on with the hopfully cruel and harch punishment she deserves.

[TheMan]

Fair as defined in our constitution...

[kreed2000]

The Mason County court system doesn't go by the good old Constitution. I know for a fact you can't get justice or a fair trial. Justice is blind but not in Mason County Ky.

[TheMan]

Must have had allot different experiences, I find it much the opposite..

[kreed2000]

Personaly just one but I have seen so much nonscence with that court system with other people I know. For instance my juvenile daughter had a 22 year old man getting nasty and talking dirty to her, I went to file charges with John Estill and he told me to send this guy a letter saying stay away from her. Another my former neighbor hit my house and tore my yard up with his vehicle, went to court the unhonorable Judge Walton said he had a right to hit my house because of an easment. I don't even want to talk about the dog at large charge on me.

[BADBOY]

Personaly just one but I have seen so much nonscence with that court system with other people I know. For instance my juvenile daughter had a 22 year old man getting nasty and talking dirty to her, I went to file charges with John Estill and he told me to send this guy a letter saying stay away from her. Another my former neighbor hit my house and tore my yard up with his vehicle, went to court the unhonorable Judge Walton said he had a right to hit my house because of an easment. I don't even want to talk about the dog at large charge on me.


Please elaborate, John Estill told you to send a letter to the guy that got nasty with your daughter. What about restaining order or charges. Did you call POLICE? The guy that hit your house, did you call the POLICE? If so, did what did they say?

[Chuck]

Please don't elaborate unless you plan to post your identity. Your conversation is close to an accusation and would need to be supported.

Not that I discount what you are saying. I just don't want the heat for it. Beside that we are talking about Amy Baker in this thread. Your opinion stands as why you voted the way you did. You don't have to state more to justify it.

[BADBOY]

Please don't elaborate unless you plan to post your identity. Your conversation is close to an accusation and would need to be supported.

Not that I discount what you are saying. I just don't want the heat for it. Beside that we are talking about Amy Baker in this thread. Your opinion stands as why you voted the way you did. You don't have to state more to justify it.

Sorry about that, I got off of subject and toooooo nosie!

[Chuck]

Sorry about that, I got off of subject and toooooo nosie!


LOL, I do too sometimes. We need to help each other watch it.

[Guest]

I know how everyone feels about this lady. It's human nature to want to lock her up forever and throw away the key. trust me, I feel the same way. but I want you to understand, if she gets 20 years, while that may sound good on the surface, there's gonna be hundreds of people like her walking the streets. Why, you ask? because the credibility of the judicial system has been damaged now because of this case. There are times when you have to let one bad guy/girl go, in order to get two. It's just the way it is. However, now anyone who is in a position to make a plea deal, in order to put some other bad people away, will not trust the system. I can hear them saying "remember the case in KY"?
Guess what will happen now? There's gonna be cases where all three bad people walk because the one who might have testified against them won't.
Just some thoughts.

[Chuck]

I know how everyone feels about this lady. It's human nature to want to lock her up forever and throw away the key. trust me, I feel the same way. but I want you to understand, if she gets 20 years, while that may sound good on the surface, there's gonna be hundreds of people like her walking the streets. Why, you ask? because the credibility of the judicial system has been damaged now because of this case. There are times when you have to let one bad guy/girl go, in order to get two. It's just the way it is. However, now anyone who is in a position to make a plea deal, in order to put some other bad people away, will not trust the system. I can hear them saying "remember the case in KY"?
Guess what will happen now? There's gonna be cases where all three bad people walk because the one who might have testified against them won't.
Just some thoughts.

Well Said.