O.J. Tossed At Louisville Restaurant

[pete24]

By Beth Campbell
Associated Press

LOUISVILLE - Restaurateur Jeff Ruby, the owner of an upscale steakhouse in Louisville said he asked O.J. Simpson to leave his restaurant the night before the Kentucky Derby because he is sickened by the attention Simpson still attracts.

"I didn't want to serve him because of my convictions of what he's done to those families," Ruby, owner of Jeff Ruby's Steakhouse, said in a telephone interview Tuesday. "The way he continues to torture the lives of those families ... with his behavior, attitude and conduct."

Simpson, an NFL Hall of Famer and Heisman Trophy winner, was found innocent in 1995 of killing his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ron Goldman but was found liable in a civil trial that followed.

Ruby - who owns the Precinct, Jeff Ruby's Steak House, and the Tropicana in Greater Cincinnati and restaurants in Louisville and Belterra, Ind. - said Simpson, who was in town for the Derby on Saturday, came in with a group of about 12 Friday night and was seated at a table in the back. A customer came up to Ruby and was "giddy" about seeing Simpson, Ruby said.

"I didn't want that experience in my restaurant," Ruby said, later adding that seeing Simpson get so much attention "makes me sick to my stomach."

He said he went to Simpson's table and said, "I'm not serving you." Ruby said when Simpson didn't respond, he repeated himself and left the room.

Ruby said Simpson soon came up to him and said he understood and would gather the rest of his party to leave.

Simpson's attorney, Yale Galanter, said the incident was about race, and he intended to pursue the matter and possibly go after the restaurant's liquor license.

"He screwed with the wrong guy, he really did," Galanter said by telephone Tuesday night.

Ruby said the incident had to do with Simpson's past.

"It was the first time since 1994 he has ever shown any class," Ruby said. "He showed it that night in the restaurant" by leaving quietly.

Ruby said after Simpson left, people in the restaurant started applauding him. He said he has received about 100 positive e-mails since the incident.

The walls of Ruby's restaurants are decorated with celebrity photos. A photo of Simpson and Ruby used to be on display, but Ruby said he took it down after the killings.

source: http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070509/NEWS02/705090378/1014

[kybikertrash]

It is my understanding that about an hour later Michael Jordan came into the same restaurant with a large party and was seated....he wasn't asked to leave. So how can this be about race?

[dpolley]

It's not, that's just OJ's lawyer blowing smoke...

[kybikertrash]

Oh I realize that....funny the phrase "playing the race card" seemed to come to light during OJ's trial.... now it seems to be a good excuse for just about anything.
Jeff Ruby didn't serve OJ because of OJ's lack of character.

Most people believe OJ was responsible for the murders but I think Jeff Ruby was more recently upset about the book "If I Did It" and the total lack of respect for the families of the victims.

[kdown]

A group of 12 ?
Why do people still associate with him ?

[chevy]

A group of 12 ?
Why do people still associate with him ?


Some people don't care if they get positve or negative attention so long as they are getting attention.



I thought a business owner of any kind had a right to choose if they want to serve a person or not? This shows how two faced O.J. is. He leaves nicely then runs to his lawyer.

[Flame]

I want Ruby's e-mail address so I can send him a very nice e-mail. He just did what many people in America want to do. Tell OJ we think you did it and you wrote a book trying to make money off of it and we don't like it so go.................you all can fill in the blank to the place of your choice. I know where I'd tell him to go.

[TheMan]

Takes a heck of a character in a man to not only confront a man that he has no respect for and ask him to leave, but to also lose 12-13 potential customers in the process. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Mr. Ruby.

[Chuck]

Personally I don't care one way or the other.
If ya think about it,,,, What better way to increase your national exposure. Deny a Celebrity service. You can your company will be all over the national news. People will come from 1000's of miles around to meet the man and eat his food.

I am waiting for the book and movie deal.

[mark]

............mopar to Mr. Ruby.

One has to keep some class in those upscale restaurants to keep celebs coming..........see ya mark

[dpolley]

Personally I don't care one way or the other.
If ya think about it,,,, What better way to increase your national exposure. Deny a Celebrity service. You can your company will be all over the national news. People will come from 1000's of miles around to meet the man and eat his food.

I am waiting for the book and movie deal.

OMG, Chuck....you're getting so cynical! LOL

[Chuck]

LOL, It's been a week of Mondays. They get you everytime.

[Jeremy]

A group of 12 ?
Why do people still associate with him ?

Unfortunately it was another group of twelve that dropped the ball in the first place.

[Chuck]

Unfortunately it was another group of twelve that dropped the ball in the first place.

Least we not forget the glove that did not fit. Proof that law enforcement planted evidence against OJ to make their case fit. The lack of forensic evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did it.

I myself feel he OJ is guilty of the charges but there is just not much evidence to support it. The ball was dropped by the people whom investigated prosecuted the case.

Realistically it was the media that convinced us that OJ was guilty. There was not enough proof or evidence.

[Maxwells]

I think it is awesome that he stood up for what he believed in, and didn't serve OJ. Not to many people would of done that. Me personally, has always thought he was guilty. The trial lasted a year, and it took just days to come up with a verdict. GEEZ What a waste of time of the taxpayers money! I feel for the families who's children were murdered!

[frankie 2 times]

Least we not forget the glove that did not fit. Proof that law enforcement planted evidence against OJ to make their case fit. The lack of forensic evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did it.

I myself feel he OJ is guilty of the charges but there is just not much evidence to support it. The ball was dropped by the people whom investigated prosecuted the case.

Realistically it was the media that convinced us that OJ was guilty. There was not enough proof or evidence.chuck-o you done lost your mind.

the evidence proved he did it.

one simple glove situation, and i defy you to wear baggy plastic gloves and then get on form fitting isotoners
that have been soaked in blood and then dried.

that is the only thing he can say didn't prove his guilt,
and one simple line "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit".

but, if the glove was the only thing they (the defense) had going for them, why should that have been the focus ?

in reality the prosecution thought they had a slam dunk,
but OJ's lawyers drug race into (Mark Furhman) and pulled every dirty trick in da book.

truth be told the media didn't convince me OJ was guilty, OJ's behavior and the evidence did.

[Chuck]

Frankie baby, did you switch political parties???? Is red your favorite color? (God I missed you. My friend)

I didn't much pay attention to the trial or O.J. at the time. I pretty much went with the whole thing of a jury saying not guilty. I am good with that.

Now I never was an O.J. Fan. The guy has beaten several criminal charges but it was the prosecution and LA PD that messed it all up. The jury just gave a verdict based on what was shown to them.

Any cop will tell ya it takes a bunch of work to make a case. It take allot more work to make a good case and a get conviction.

[frankie 2 times]

dude when the prosecution took this to trial they thought it was a done deal.

was this a mistake ??

oh **** yeah.

but when a guy takes to da streets in a slow speed chase, with a gun to his head,
10k in cash and a friggin fake beard, it seems like he just might be trying to tell you something

then you have to look at the ridiculous defense assertation that blood, (from the crime scene),
left in a crime scene van could somehow morph into OJ's DNA

even if blood is left unattended how long do you think it takes to morph into OJ's ??

i mean i went into the whole situation believing that OJ was innocent.
i mean seriously, how could nordberg be a killer ?

his actions and the evidence swayed me ... i'd really like to type here otherwise,
but to any rational person this is an easy call .....




p.s. no offense chuck-o :D

[Flame]

Do you think if it had been any of us ordinary people and we were going down a freeway in a white, (was it a blazer or bronco?), whichever, like he did the police would have handled it the way they did him? I personally don't think so and believe the majority of America does not think so. My opinion is if you don't have anything to hide why run? For the sake of arguement lets say he didn't do it what kind of a man writes a book "if I did do it" for the families of the victims, one being your children's mother, to suffer more. He shows no compassion by doing that even if he hadn't done, which I think he did.

But that is just little ole me's opinion. Off to shopping.

[Chuck]

Jeremy, Frankie,

Wasn't 3 police officers were terminated from that case? 1 for racism? 1 charge with evidence handling violation? I forget the reason for the third. Either way, that was not a slam dunk case.


but when a guy takes to da streets in a slow speed chase, with a gun to his head, 10k in cash and a friggin fake beard, it seems like he just might be trying to tell you something

This is not evidence, it is drama. If he did it and knew they where coming why didn't he leave with the 10k the day before?


then you have to look at the ridiculous defense assertation that blood, (from the crime scene), left in a crime scene van could somehow morph into OJ's DNA even if blood is left unattended how long do you think it takes to morph into OJ's ??


Once it was proven that blood evidence was planted at one location it raised question to all other blood evidence being planted. If the van was unattended chain of custody is lost. It is in a book called the California Penal Code under "Rules of Evidence"

I don't know enough about DNA to know if it can morph or not.

Yes I believe he was guilty. I don't think the jury dropped the ball. I believe the prosecution did.

A rational man could take the medias presentation of the case and make the guilty verdict. But a prudent man sitting on a jury, isolated from the media, presented with only the factual evidence could not.

Thank god the jury listened to the facts and did not convict OJ based on emotion.

[frankie 2 times]

ppppt, evidence was sufficient, the prosecution did drop the ball,
but chuck you make it soumd like if they had video you would still argue.

evidence tampering ?
evidence planting ?

1 cop fired for racism ?

these things sound like defense dramas and not evidence.

[Chuck]

ppppt, evidence was sufficient, the prosecution did drop the ball, but chuck you make it sound like if they had video you would still argue.


Nope. I am convinced that OJ is a Drug Abuser, Wife Beating, Child Abusing, Murders, not to mention his moral crimes against the people. I personally would not live in the same city with him let alone eat in the same restaurant with him.


evidence tampering ?
evidence planting ?

1 cop fired for racism ?

these things sound like defense dramas and not evidence


My argument is strictly focused at blame for the prosecutable mess up, not the jurors that were ask to listen and make a choice. Their choice was based on what they where presented with.

Defense attorney drama does not happen if the police and prosecutors do the work. They should have had answers for the glove issue in the same day controversy was presented. Not scramble for answers in the 11th hour.

Criminals arresting criminals is never a good trial situation. A trial is never a good place to find out you have done sloppy work. The jury will never believe a word you said.

After you throw out all the poorly handled evidence and the bad testimony you don't have any good facts.

Our system is based on fairness and equality all derived from the pursuit for the truth. Anything less and we might as well be trucking all criminals to Gimo then torture a confession out of them.

[frankie 2 times]

Anything less and we might as well be trucking all criminals to Gitmo then torture a confession out of them.sounds good to me :Banane44:

[TheMan]

Cops dropped the ball on this one. Nothing more nothing less. That and a ruthless defense team..

[Chuck]

sounds good to me :Banane44:


You are too funny Prez.

[TheMan]

And I find nothing wrong with your last paragraph Chuck....:)

[Antonio'sgirl]

Don't know how I happened upon this thread, don't know if anyone is even still reading it, or cares about it, but Chuck happens to be wrong in a few things he says. I hate to "pull rank" as an attorney here, but just to point out two of many errors: (1) none of the police officers who worked on O.J.'s case were fired or suspended for any activity either relating to the O.J. investigation or for any racial violation- Detective Furman [Iwas[/I] disciplined 10 years before the murders ever took place for some racial comments he made, and was forced to go to "gender counseling"- the prosecutors failed to call to the stand several African American police officers at the LAPD who all gave interviews to the LA papers during the trial and told them that they had been partnered with Det. Furman in the years since and that they had never had any problems with him, in fact, that he had been a good partner they had enjoyed working with. (2) it was never proven that ANY DNA was planted ANYWHERE. This was a speculation raised by the defense in cross- examination but the plain fact it was never proven that it had ever taken place. And, even if you believed it was planted in one place, it would have taken several police officers, at least 4-5 to have planted ALL of the blood containing O.J. at the several sites where it was found. I.e., Det. Furman was not in all of those places. So this would have involved a conspiracy of several police officers to frame an innocent man, not just one bad cop. However, read the transcripts of the closing arguments of Marcia Clark and Chris Darden- you will never hear any of this stated.

Just so you know, I do not take credit for this. If you are interested in hearing more about how the prosecution, not the LAPD, blew the O.J. criminal case, you should read "Outrage" by Vincent Bugliosi. I have a copy in my library- it may be out of print now, but you might be able to find a good, paperback copy on E-bay. It is a great read.

[Chuck]

My info very well could be wrong, I found it on the Internet. Did not really care enough about the case to read it further.

I will concede to you knowledge on this case.

[mark]

.............Hmmm, I remember OJ vowing to "find" the killer after he was acquitted.

Just thinking.......
I wonder if all the mirrors in his house has been removed yet? ............see ya mark