Maysville Police Investigate Amy Baker

[Chuck]

Reported by: 9News
Web produced by: Neil Relyea
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First posted: 2/24/2007 12:27:11 PM
The woman who became the prosecution's star witness in the murder trial of Liz Carroll is under investigation by Maysville, Kentucky police.

Amy Baker admitted on the witness stand that she helped David Carroll put Marcus Fiesel's remains in a bag and dispose of his remains from the Ohio River bridge at Maysville.

The Ohio River is within Kentucky's state boundary only a short distance from the Ohio shoreline.

Baker has immunity from prosecutors in Clermont and Brown counties in Ohio for what took place.

However, the bridge which spans the Ohio River between Aberdeen and Maysville, falls into the Maysville jurisdiction.

Maysville police have assigned an investigator to the case and plan to talk to Clermont County authorities to make sure their investigation doesn't interfere with any ongoing cases.

Already the Marcus Fiesel case has involved at least four counties in Ohio: Butler, Brown, Clermont and Hamilton counties.

As Maysville police proceed with their case it involves another county -- Mason -- as well as another state.

Source (http://wcpo.com/news/2007/local/02/24/amy_baker.html)

[Flame]

I love it because in her own testimony she helped dispose of this child's remains and went along with the disappearace story. In my opinion she is just as guilty and she knows she is or she would not have asked for immunity. I have a question if you were a social worker or case worker for this foster care company would you not have found it to be strange to have the foster parents along with the live in girlfriend in this home. I think this, at the very least, may warrant a little more investigation into whether these people should be foster parents.

Just the few cents worth I can afford.

[mark]

.............I believe the MPD is wasting their time.

They need to concentrate on Maysville crimes, not one that already has a verdict...........see ya mark

[ponto]

If Mason County were to charge Amy Baker with abusing the corpse of Marcus Fiesel, it would complicate the murder case against David Carroll Jr.

"I think it would be a huge mistake on their part," Daniel "Woody" Breyer, the Clermont County assistant prosecutor who is overseeing the murder case, said.

source (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070225/NEWS01/702250328/-1/CINCI)

[Flame]

So is it being said that she should walk free when she was aware and we are not sure maybe a part of the death of this innocent 3 year old? How will it complicate his case if he is coping a plea? The three adults in this case as far as I see it don't deserve to breathe the same air I do, or any air for that matter.

Just my opinion.

[Chuck]

If Baker gets charged in Ky. Carroll may not take a plea. He will probably roll the dice, hope and depend that Baker does not show up to testify. If she doesn't testify against him he stands a good chance of walking.

(My Personal Opinion)
It is way to early to speculate on what will happen. What John Estill and MPD are doing is exactly what is prescribed by law, making Ohio aware that there is a potential for charges against Baker in Ky.

I believe what Mr. Estill is doing is 100% right in doing this. What Ohio does with the information is out of Estill's and MPD's control.

Either way this plays out we need to take a solid stand behind John Estill and MPD.

What Amy Baker should be concerned with is keeping her deal and hope that Ohio can work something out with John Estill

[Flame]

He took the plea according to one Cincinnati radio station. So they have both been convicted so where does that leave Amy Baker? I just hope Ohio or John Estill finds a loop hole in her immunity and she gets what she deserves for her role in this tragedy.

[Daphne]

He hasn't taken the deal yet. They are 99% sure that he will take the deal, guess we will find out in the morning around 8:30 for sure.

Source (http://www.wlwt.com/news/11113298/detail.html)

[kybikertrash]

I have no problem with Amy Baker being charged in Kentucky. She needs to be charged somewhere and Ohio sure screwed up (imo) by giving her complete immunity. Why couldn't they have offered reduced sentence or charges, but to let her go free???? I understand her testimony was important seal the deal on the Carrolls, but she shouldn't have been able to walk free because of it. Amy Baker knew that child was in that closet, she even said she heard him sobhbing/crying and she did nothing. Just as guilty, imo.

[Flame]

Kybikertrash I couldn't agree more.

[Chuck]

I couldn't agree more with both of you.

I have chatted with John Estill since this morning and he said the normal "I can't tell you much" but what he did say is that he has moved this case over to the Detectives at MPD. That they are working with Clermont County and that Clermont County is talking with MPD.

[canaco]

Wouldn't she look absolutely HOT in orange.

[Flame]

I personally don't look at women in that manner but I can tell you I think she'd look good with bars in front of her face.

[TheMan]

Most, if not all of this frenzy would have been avoided if not for the news media taking a vigilante stance. They were the ones that mentioned it they are the ones pushing it.

Maysville WILL NOT interfere with the capitol case in Ohio, nor will we do anything to jeopardize any cases pending in Ohio. Even if that means Baker does not pay the price for her part in that crime. (which is more of a part than Liz Carroll played.

Again I will reiterate.. The Maysville Police will not do anything that will jeopardize any cases pending in Ohio. It's just another case of the media taking on a job they have no clue how to do.

[canaco]

I personally don't look at women in that manner but I can tell you I think she'd look good with bars in front of her face.

About the same thing I was trying to say. lol I did not mean to imply she would be pretty.

[TheMan]

"Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder~"

[RHP Studios]

I never read every word but glanced over each post...the question I have that nobody has brought up (and I am definitely no attorney so really dont have a clue), but since this is now a multi-state crime, doesn't that in some way make it a federal crime. If it does, doesn't that make her OH immunity void and null?

[Flame]

That is a good question and I'm no attorney or officer of the law I have no question, but glad you brought it up maybe someone with more knowledge will let us know.

As far as beauty being in the eye of the beer holder, well guess that's why they don't get better looking at closing time for me, I quit drinking about 5 yars ago.

[THeflin]

I agree that she needs to have some punishment for her involvement. I don't like when prosecutors give immunity in exchange for testimony....it usually turns out that the person they give it to played a larger role in the crime and walked away totally free......

[Chuck]

Federal won't step in unless the local agencies request it on a "closed Investigation". The only time the Fed's jump in and take over is during an investigation that covers multi-jurisdictions.

Plea bargains are a fact of life in the CJS. They help get the job done. They are dirty and nasty, yes, but they work.

[amber_nathan15]

In my opinion Amy Baker should be charged just like the other two. She knew all about everything and never turned them in, so she is just as guilty. I hope they put her behind bars too.

[MSE boss]

they all will get what they deserve it may just take awhile what our courts dont handle will be taken care of by a higher authority

[kybikertrash]

I saw the prosecutor in the case from Ohio on the TV today and he said Amy Baker was only given immunity in Clermont and Hamilton Counties and that they will not interfere with any investigation in any other state or county. It seems to me that Brown County would have a case also. Didn't they try to burn the body in an old chimney in Brown County or am I wrong on that?

[Daphne]

You are correct on that. They did burn the body in Brown County. According to what David Carroll said today it was he and Amy Baker that burnt the body and then put the remains in a pillow case and tossed it into the River.

I however, was disgusted by his remarks and a couple of remarks his attorney made. You can watch the video here (http://www.wlwt.com/video/11123744/index.html) to see what I am talking about.

This whole tragedy just disgusts me, how anyone can do something like this to a child just makes me sick. I hope for Marcus' sake that all involved will get what they have coming, and for Amy Baker her day may still come. We can only hope at this point and time.

[KELTYSBOY]

WLW personality Bill Cunningham has been challenging Mason County Attorney John Estill to go after Amy Baker since last week. The case is now closed in Clermont County and Mr. Estill is free to persue he chooses to do so.
Mr. Cunningham is pushing the issue on his radio show on a daily basis. He's dangling the bait in front of Estill in an attempt to put Amy Baker behind bars.
I stronly recommend watching Justice For All starring Al Pacino. I believe that would answer a lot of questions pertaining to our criminal justice system.

[Maxwells]

I feel sorry for Marcus' and God only knows what that poor child had to endure with those people, if you want to call them that. It is time for the judicial systems to wake up, set up, and punish these people to the fulliest extent possible. It is disgusting that this would even run through people's minds, little lone commit the crime. He was just a baby, just a baby. He had no choice, no say on how he was being treated. I pray for peace for Marcus' and pray for JUSTICE.

[Chuck]

Just to make sure you all understand that if John Estill does pursue the case and it goes to trial. It would probably cost Mason County Taxpayers Millions to get a conviction,,, or not.

[KELTYSBOY]

Every case that actually goes to trial costs money, Chuck. Mr. Estill would not prosecute this case. If, indeed, Mr. Estill persues and charges are filed the case would then be presented to a grand jury.
Once the case is bound over to the grand jury it would become Kate Hendrickson's responsibility.
Mr. Estill is the key, however. But it would ultimately be Ms. Hendrickson's responsibility to prosecute or cut a deal.

[KELTYSBOY]

I left out a key figure here. Judge Stockton Wood. He would preside over the proceedings. If anything happens at all.

[mark]

Wouldn't she look absolutely HOT in orange.

I bet somebody in a gray bar hotel may get a chance to see her like that someday.

The law will figure out some way to make that happen.........see ya mark