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firecracker
August 29th, 2006, 09:07 PM
I seen a sign today in Mason County that read, "Auto Club Coming Soon" One must assume that this would be the same type "Auto Club" that is currently operating in Aberdeen, Oh. by Tommy Henderson. Dont know if Tommy has anything to do with this one, maybe someone could ask him about it.
mark
August 29th, 2006, 09:09 PM
.............where is it suppose to be located?
Any ideas?? .............see ya mark
firecracker
August 29th, 2006, 09:10 PM
seen the sign in eastern mason county
will try to get a pic tommorrow
Foxy
August 30th, 2006, 12:10 AM
I saw that sign, wasn't out on that road where the Maysville Equipment rental? The barn where the short cut/access road is to get to old Washington???? I think...
But I was thinking the same thing!! If it as low class as the one in Aberdeen, I hope it isn't coming here!
bevbme
August 30th, 2006, 11:21 AM
I was just across road #1448 (Maple Leaf), the road Maysville Rental is on, and I did not see any signs relating to an "auto club".
mfashcraft
August 30th, 2006, 11:53 AM
The sign is on a barn, on the right, after u turn on Taylor Mill from the AA. I seen it a few days ago & wondered if it was going to be a branch of the, I"m sure, sleezy strip joint in Aberdeen.
kdown
August 30th, 2006, 01:41 PM
strip club ??????????
where, where ??????????
LOL
mark
August 30th, 2006, 05:19 PM
I saw that sign, wasn't out on that road where the Maysville Equipment rental? The barn where the short cut/access road is to get to old Washington???? I think...
But I was thinking the same thing!! If it as low class as the one in Aberdeen, I hope it isn't coming here!
Oh, please say NO! That's about 1/2 mile from my house.
Yuk!! We don't need that at all!! ............see ya mark
firecracker
August 30th, 2006, 05:49 PM
yeah thats were the sign is posted, on a barn on taylor mill rd. The club will probably be located across from stockyards on AA hwy were the old trading days were held. I believe the same man owns this property as well as the proerty were the aberdeen club is located.
thetalady4
August 30th, 2006, 07:56 PM
call matt wallingford at city hall...5649411....he is in charge of the maysville/mason county joint planning commission and direct your questions to him
Foxy
August 30th, 2006, 09:27 PM
call matt wallingford at city hall...5649411....he is in charge of the maysville/mason county joint planning commission and direct your questions to him
I don't have questions, I have Statements to make.....
thetalady4
August 31st, 2006, 10:05 AM
How is the property zoned?
acoolmom777
August 31st, 2006, 01:26 PM
hey Foxy when you call....Talk to Gary Wells....tell him I am behind you 110%...he knows me very well, and I always make statements...heehee
bikerwannabe
August 31st, 2006, 10:43 PM
We don't need any sleezy strip joints around here. We need to set good examples for our children not bad ones.
Foxy
September 1st, 2006, 12:04 AM
here is the new ledger story about this http://www.maysvillekybbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6016
How is the property zoned?
Although the City of Maysville has an adult business zoning, the county does not, as Henderson found when he talked to city officials.
"I need I-1A zoning for an adult business," he said. "The property at the end of Taylor Mill Road and the AA is zoned agricultural."
call matt wallingford at city hall...5649411....he is in charge of the maysville/mason county joint planning commission and direct your questions to him
Henderson plans to approach the Mason County Joint Planning Commission to request a zoning change. He knows his request is likely to be denied, but he will make it anyway.
"I will go to the meeting, I will ask," Henderson said......
The joint planning commission would have to schedule a public hearing before any zoning changes can be made, according to Zoning Administrator Matt Wallingford.
"Adult entertainment establishments are only permitted in light industrial zones, I-1A," Wallingford said. "The property at the corner of Taylor Mill Road and the AA is agricultural. The comprehensive plan map shows that property remaining agricultural only."
"The only way adult entertainment would be permitted is with a zoning change made by the planning commission and fiscal court," said Wallingford, "I don't see it happening, there are a few businesses out there, which were there before zoning went into effect, they have been grandfathered into the plan. I don't see zoning being changed."
"All adjoining property owners would be notified in the event of a public hearing and signage would be placed on the property," Wallingford said. "All the planning commission would be doing is making a recommendation to the fiscal court."
If any of you all know about any upcoming meeting, please post it here!! I want to be there!!
lone wolf
September 1st, 2006, 08:58 PM
I know most folks would disagree with me, but if a club is ran correctly and tastefully, then it's not really a sleazy joint.
While attending college in Louisville, several of my fellow students and myself would drop in on the gentlemen clubs from time to time. In fact many of the young ladies that worked there, were putting themselves through college with the money they earned there. Quite a few of them were single mothers that wanted to better their stance in life by receiving a college education.
Trying to go to college while working at a job that paid you a mere $80 to $100.00 a week just wasn't cutting it. They were making just barely enough to cover their basic needs and they would still be receiving assistance from government agencies, such as food stamps.
For some the choice was simple, work for $80.00 dollars a week and do without, which meant that college was out of reach, or get a job at a gentleman’s club and make as much as $600.00 to $1,000.00 a week.
With that type of income, they were able to attend college, afford a descent place to live and provide their children with more than the basic needs. I've known several women who worked in these clubs and are now your doctors, dentist or accountants.
Women who really applied themselves to roll as a performer, such as working on a routine on the pole, are artist. They show signs of grace and pose and are a wonder to watch. If she does it correctly, it's like watching a ballet. Now these women really earn their money and rightfully so.
So if a club is ran correctly and with style, it's not a bad thing.
bikerwannabe
September 2nd, 2006, 02:57 AM
I know most folks would disagree with me, but if a club is ran correctly and tastefully, then it's not really a sleazy joint.
While attending college in Louisville, several of my fellow students and myself would drop in on the gentlemen clubs from time to time. In fact many of the young ladies that worked there, were putting themselves through college with the money they earned there. Quite a few of them were single mothers that wanted to better their stance in life by receiving a college education.
Trying to go to college while working at a job that paid you a mere $80 to $100.00 a week just wasn't cutting it. They were making just barely enough to cover their basic needs and they would still be receiving assistance from government agencies, such as food stamps.
For some the choice was simple, work for $80.00 dollars a week and do without, which meant that college was out of reach, or get a job at a gentleman’s club and make as much as $600.00 to $1,000.00 a week.
With that type of income, they were able to attend college, afford a descent place to live and provide their children with more than the basic needs. I've known several women who worked in these clubs and are now your doctors, dentist or accountants.
Women who really applied themselves to roll as a performer, such as working on a routine on the pole, are artist. They show signs of grace and pose and are a wonder to watch. If she does it correctly, it's like watching a ballet. Now these women really earn their money and rightfully so.
So if a club is ran correctly and with style, it's not a bad thing.
I think it still degrades women. You can hold down two jobs and make it without showing off your body to strange men. That is just degrading to women. I know I wouldn't want my children to be telling everyone I was a stripper. I think you can make money in a better way.
thetalady4
September 2nd, 2006, 10:44 AM
I will keep you informed......one concern I have is why the county does not have an adult entertainment center designated in their co mprehensive plan.....if you are concerned ask members of the fiscal court or call the judge'soffice....take a stand and let your voice be heard!
canaco
September 2nd, 2006, 10:48 AM
One new thought, Teddy's and Toy's.
I don't think Mr. Henderson not is going to allow children in to the club. I think that the proposed location would make it difficult for any child to get there.
People need to eat. To accomplish this they need to work somewhere. To get a job somewhere that place needs customers. Without customers you take away THAT place to work and THAT job.
All this shows is the direction Maysville/Mason County is heading. Gambling, Clubs, Pawn Shops. If you don't think that Wal-Mart, Lowe's and all the current growth don't play in to this plan you are mistaken.
Why are the same people buying up the store property downtown?
Are they going to open new businesses?
The Auto Club is just one part of the big picture. You governing officials have perfected the art of getting what the want.
I am pro the Auto Club. I am Pro Gambling. I am pro the Pawn Shops. The difference is I will tell you I vote that way. I have no problem telling you that your current government wants this too. They are voting that way, all the time telling you that they are not.
In order to beat it you will need to come up with a better and much more solid argument. You can only do that if you organize and have a plan.
1 person attending a meeting in protest once every 3 years does not send any message to anyone. It takes 1000 people with one spokesperson.
You need a plan. You need people to execute the plan. Maysville is so divided this will never happen and the Auto Club will still have customers.
Foxy
September 2nd, 2006, 12:37 PM
I am confused by what you mean when you say Mr. Henderson will let children into the club.
And I agree that no one says anything about Teddy's and Toys. I have no problem with that establishment either, they card you when you walk in the door, and no one under 18 goes in.
Remember the Hustler store in Lexington? They fought to get the zoning changed in Fayette County, and won, they are a booming business now.
bikerwannabe
September 2nd, 2006, 01:22 PM
I myself don't like Teddy's and Toy's or the Auto Club. It isn't what I want it is what the city of maysville wants. We vote but our votes don't really count. That is my opinion.
ponto
September 2nd, 2006, 01:41 PM
biker wanna be -
What they sell at Teddy's would be considered formal wear at a biker rallye. LOL
canaco
September 2nd, 2006, 04:27 PM
I myself don't like Teddy's and Toy's or the Auto Club. It isn't what I want it is what the city of maysville wants. We vote but our votes don't really count. That is my opinion.
If my vote don't count then why is it that the City and County are headed in the direction I like and vote? It must be the numbers that matter.
Sorry Foxy. I sent a PM and ask Chuck to change it. I meant 'not'.
Foxy
September 2nd, 2006, 05:46 PM
No problem... makes sense now!!!
Thanks...
bikerwannabe
September 3rd, 2006, 10:23 AM
If my vote don't count then why is it that the City and County are headed in the direction I like and vote? It must be the numbers that matter.
Sorry Foxy. I sent a PM and ask Chuck to change it. I meant 'not'.
Maybe you want what the city wants. Sometimes things go the way I vote and sometimes it doesn't. It just seems to me that the officials do what they want and not what the public wants. Maybe they are looking out for our best interest and we just don't understand.
Anonymous Coward
September 3rd, 2006, 12:55 PM
I think it still degrades women. You can hold down two jobs and make it without showing off your body to strange men. That is just degrading to women. I know I wouldn't want my children to be telling everyone I was a stripper. I think you can make money in a better way.
In your opinion it degrades women. Ask the women that work these places if it degrades them, as that is who it matters to. I am sure that there are exceptions to the rule, but in general these women choose to work at these places, they are not forced to be there. They drive themselves, they walk in, they go on stage.
I had a friend in Florida that worked in a G0-Go bar, (NOT A STRIP CLUB). She chose to work there; yeah she made good money averaged about $900 a week after she took taxes out. Where in Maysville, Aberdeen, or any where else around here, where a woman can make that much?????
She has a good head on her shoulders, and when asked why she worked there, she always said the same thing, before I went to work there, I knew my morals and values, I never compromised any of them while working there. It was a job. That is it, a job. I get up I go to work, I get paid, and I go home. Same as you." She also pointed at that she used to get harassed by men more walking down the street or at a dance club then she ever got working at the Go-Go bar. She was and is a great friend, she has gone to college, and was offered a full scholarship to attend Mid-Way college.
Before you all pass judgment on the women that work at places like this, remember that they wouldn't be there if there were no customers. (Your men... including your friends, brothers, husbands, uncles, boyfriends, etc...) She says that most people would be surprised at who go to these clubs, from judges, lawyers, doctors, therapists, even ministers, to other prominent members of "society".
Jess
September 3rd, 2006, 03:16 PM
I was just thinking the same thing anonymous coward.
Originally Posted by Anonymous Coward
Before you all pass judgment on the women that work at places like this, remember that they wouldn't be there if there were no customers. (Your men... including your friends, brothers, husbands, uncles, boyfriends, etc...) She says that most people would be surprised at who go to these clubs, from judges, lawyers, doctors, therapists, even ministers, to other prominent members of "society".
bikerwannabe
September 3rd, 2006, 10:58 PM
It just goes to show you how sad society really is. I guess that is why I am a loner. You can always make money doing other things than that. You might have to hold down two jobs but you can do it. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. With that in mind I will not say no more.
TheMan
September 4th, 2006, 03:52 AM
As long as it isn't hurting you, what makes a difference how they earn their money? Sad or not, there is a market for it, morally right or not, there is a demand. Judge not lest ye be judged.
Shrek
September 4th, 2006, 10:18 AM
I am all for a strip club in town. I am all for the Auto Club getting all this free advertisement too. Maybe someone will read this and come over and sit with me.
Foxy
September 4th, 2006, 12:16 PM
I am all for a strip club in town. I am all for the Auto Club getting all this free advertisement too. Maybe someone will read this and come over and sit with me.
Fell of the couch laughin' at this one!
Anonymous Coward
September 4th, 2006, 12:25 PM
I was telling my friend about this post and she wanted me to add that though she is who she is, that does not mean that there are not those in that field of work that give girls like her a bad name. Apparently the laws on what these women do in different clubs vary from state to state And there are women who work there that are not 'abiding by the law' and they are the ones that give her a bad name because of their practices.
Do you hate all catholic priests because a few have done terrible things to society? What about bar tenders that allow a drunk driver to leave? What about the lawyer that is defending the murderer that DID do the crime and gets him off on a technicality? I mean those things can affect society as a whole, this affects one person, maybe 2, but all parties in this profession are willing participants.
Bikerwannabe,
Please continue to argue your opinion, i may not agree, but if you believe in it you should say so. Lord knows I should shut up half the time, but I don't. Just read my signature.
chevy
September 4th, 2006, 01:36 PM
Putting the strip club in Maysville part aside, I have a question. Seeing all of the hype about strip clubs being degrading to women or not, I just have to ask, would there be this much discussion and arguing if the dancers were male instead of female? Not trying to make this into a sexist thing, I just wonder if people's views on the subject are different. Would the men in this discussion be more against a male strip club and the women more open-minded about it? Again, just a question. My view on the whole thing is it's not effecting me and it's not my place to judge. The Auto Club in Ohio has been there for awhile, and nobody seemed this publicly outraged until the posibility of one in Maysville. It's not like the one is that far away.
Foxy
September 4th, 2006, 02:00 PM
Exactly Chevy!
Here is my Foxology... if it doesn't affect your life, your kids, your job, your money or your property what dog do you have in the fight???
Foxology...Yes it IS a word ;)
Chuck
September 4th, 2006, 03:26 PM
Foxology...Yes it IS a word ;)
Yes it is. It means the study of small rodents. LOL, Just Kidding.
Foxology is the study of trapping and hunting the fox.
Foxy
September 4th, 2006, 03:30 PM
Yes it is. It means the study of small rodents. LOL, Just Kidding.
Foxology is the study of trapping and hunting the fox.
LMBO!!!
TheMan
September 4th, 2006, 04:42 PM
sounds similar to another "ology" I know of...;)
Foxy
September 4th, 2006, 04:53 PM
sounds similar to another "ology" I know of...;)
I have no idea what you are talking about, and if I did I would probably plead the 5th!!
Chuck
September 4th, 2006, 05:47 PM
"ology" a latin suffix meaning the study of the prefix.
Example:
autoclubology would be the would be the study of auto clubs. An autoclubologist would be the person doing the study. So we can better understand the functions of a true autoclubologist we would need to become autoinvestiologist.
This is not to be confused with foxologist which are simple hunters of the fox. This too can be done @ the Auto Club.
Foxy
September 4th, 2006, 05:49 PM
HEY!!! I have never been there!!!!
But was that the X-Box in their parking lot????
bikerwannabe
September 4th, 2006, 07:56 PM
Putting the strip club in Maysville part aside, I have a question. Seeing all of the hype about strip clubs being degrading to women or not, I just have to ask, would there be this much discussion and arguing if the dancers were male instead of female? Not trying to make this into a sexist thing, I just wonder if people's views on the subject are different. Would the men in this discussion be more against a male strip club and the women more open-minded about it? Again, just a question. My view on the whole thing is it's not effecting me and it's not my place to judge. The Auto Club in Ohio has been there for awhile, and nobody seemed this publicly outraged until the posibility of one in Maysville. It's not like the one is that far away.
In answer to your question chevy, it doesn't make a difference to me if it was a male or female strip club. A strip club is a strip club. I used to go into Aberdeen once in a while but since the club is there I have only been over there I think once and that was to get my car cleaned at Blue Jays. In my opinion it is just discusting and sad to know that we have a lot of sick people in the world who want to watch other people strip. If you are single that is fine but if you are married you are to be happy with what you got and not need or want to look at anyone else but your mate.
Anonymous Coward
September 4th, 2006, 08:22 PM
Just a side note, why would a strip club being in the same town stop you from going there? Do you go to Lexington or Cincinnati? Just curious, not bashing you or your opinion, but it just cam out a little wrong i think. And if your conviction is that you are against then you shouldn't go in there at all. Being single or married should have no bearing on it.
chevy
September 4th, 2006, 08:23 PM
Anonymous Coward is right. Thanks for your opinion bikerwannabe, but does this mean you will boycott everything in Maysville if a strip club happens to open here? That makes no sense. I understand that these places are considered sleezy to some, but why would you avoid Aberdeen because they have one, and not places like Lexington? Why does the size of the town make a difference?
Anonymous Coward
September 4th, 2006, 08:32 PM
Not trying to make any one mad, just trying to get you to think.
Wildcat Fans
September 4th, 2006, 08:39 PM
the one thing you need to remember is that it is a business if it has customers it will survive no matter where it is if it doesnt it will fail.
As far as the dancers go they go where the money is and unless you have been to one of the clubs you will not know if it is degrading or not.
Is it degrading to the man or woman that picks up trash or serves you your dinner in a fancy restaurant and makes 2$ an hour and has to hope you leave a tip?
sound to me like the one smart person in this whole deal is the owner (wish i had of had the guts to try it ) lets just sit back and see what happens
chevy
September 4th, 2006, 08:40 PM
I agree Anonymous Coward with not making anyone mad, but i'm just putting how it sounds. Since I don't know the person, I can only go by what they type.
bikerwannabe
September 4th, 2006, 10:13 PM
I don't go to Lexington or Cincinnati. If Maysville gets one I might move or I might just go to work and come home. I pretty much do that now. A persons body is supposed to be special, not for the whole world to see. If that was the case then why wear clothes? All I know is I am not mad at noone and I just strongly do not like the idea of a Strip Club in Maysville.
chevy
September 4th, 2006, 10:24 PM
The thing is, if you let a place like this keep you locked up, what good are you doing yourself? You can move, but these types of clubs will soon follow. Bars would not be considered morally right, but I don't hear anybody hiding from them. A strip club is a place that nobody has to go in. It will not corrupt you if you look at the outside of the building, and most kids don't even know what the Auto Club in Aberdeen is. I myself do not like strip clubs but I do not let the fact that there is one near by run my life. The point is, there are a lot of immoral and nasty places in this world and it's how you live your life that counts. God will not strike you down for driving by a place like this or living in a town where one exists. At least, I have never read that in the Bible. I feel that people are making a moutain out of a molehill and all this has accomplished has given more advertising to the club in the first place. We couldn't have made a better ad for this place if people stood outside it holding picket signs. Not picking a fight, I just think this whole thing has gotten silly.
bikerwannabe
September 4th, 2006, 10:47 PM
Your right it is silly and that is why I am going to stop putting my opinion in on it.
warrior-scholar
September 14th, 2006, 12:23 AM
QUOTE: As long as it isn't hurting you, what makes a difference how they earn their money? Sad or not, there is a market for it, morally right or not, there is a demand. Judge not lest ye be judged. UNQUOTE
When will people stop ripping this single verse from the Bible out of context and use it to basically tell people to shut up or leave me alone?
Anyway, you can say such a business is immoral or morally acceptable. You can argue that women need such work to go to college (laughable) or feed starving kids. All we can really do is say we don't condone such behavior/business and make it public knowledge. Decency never squelches undecency, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying. When people begin to accept and engage in behaviors many of us believe to be immoral, then it is only a matter of time before they become more public and commonplace. They will assert their "rights" as citizens and get what they want. Our government no longer has a moral foundation to hold it up-they kicked the 10 commandments out, so now it becomes a matter of public assent. Enough from me...........
tiger_n2_dragon
September 14th, 2006, 03:40 AM
The one thing I have read through out this whole thread is...It takes customers to keep a place of business open. So, I say let's see what kind of community we live in. If you don't want this business to stay here then don't go there! They won't be able to pay their bills for long with little or no customers. If you do want it to stay, then go ahead and burn those dollar bills up on a girl you’re never going to get past the batting cage with. You have to remember they are a professional con artist! They will get you to give them every dollar that’s in your pocket. When you do, its game over and on to the next sucker, you just got played! So now what are you going to do? If you've been drinking, you now have no money for a cab. Guess who’s waiting for you if you decide to do something stupid like drive. That's right, Maysville's finest baby!! Is it really worth it to you, just one night of fun?
"It's the simple things in life
Like the kids at home and a loving wife
That you miss the most, when you lose control
And everything you love starts to disappear
The devil takes your hand and says no fear
Have another shot, just one more beer
Yah, I've been there, that's why I'm here."
TheMan
September 14th, 2006, 06:45 AM
QUOTE: As long as it isn't hurting you, what makes a difference how they earn their money? Sad or not, there is a market for it, morally right or not, there is a demand. Judge not lest ye be judged. UNQUOTE
When will people stop ripping this single verse from the Bible out of context and use it to basically tell people to shut up or leave me alone?
Enough from me...........
Thats from the bible???????WoW
acoolmom777
September 14th, 2006, 10:03 AM
Just so long the girls are really over 18 (or is it 21), then it is their choice to be there. They will have to deal with the feeling they get working in a place like that. As far as the business aspect of it,It takes customers to keep a place of business open and Maysville is a small town, everyone will know who works and goes there....just stop and think about it, would be surprised how many (including the high class whoop-dee-do) people, sit at home on the internet and do their thing, (no pun intended)?????? As for “Teddy and Toys”, totally different type of business… That place is nice, clean and the woman is a really nice person. I love their clothes and gifts, so you can’t put her shop in the same category. Every “Bridal Shower” I go to, my gift comes from there. Do “I” think that is a sin to go in there…NO…Everything I buy from there is intend for a husband and wife, something God created.
This is not a “God” issue, to where you can quote a verse from the Bible and place it on this business or the employee or their customers for that matter, as for the judgment of morals, this will have to be with their souls and God…Not for man to judge. I just always figured I had enough to worry about with my soul and God, that I don’t need to take on that tacks for others. I wish good will to all people, but “I” cannot and will not make their choices for them. If it doesn’t affect “MY” breathing, than I don’t worry about it. The community as a whole will either support it or take it down, only time will tell.
warrior-scholar
September 14th, 2006, 10:38 AM
QUOTE: If it doesn’t affect “MY” breathing, than [sic] I don’t worry about it. UNQUOTE
Keep in mind, I like to argue points, not attack people:
Well, the implications of this sort of personal ethic could lead to questionable results for a community. Let's expand beyond this particular issue and think about how that would play out in our community at large? I am only bringing this up to make people think about what they say. Everybody's an "expert" on religion (even the ones who spend little time studying and thinking on such matters), so let's just look at it from a humanistic perspective. Now, the implication is that I need to worry about me and nobody else, right? Mom always told us, "Worry about yourself!" To a large extent this is true. However, what people do in public and even in private can have an immediate and even long-term influence on the community we live in and our own home. The notion that all this can go on in private ad infinitum without consequences in some form is dubious at best. Legally we can't tell people to stop engaging in behaviors we deem deviant, morally we must accept and live up to standards in our own lives, publicly we have the right to work as citizens to fashion the moral atmosphere of our community and nation. No law is value neutral. One value is always prized above another. We can remove the world "moral" if that is hang up for people.
acoolmom777
September 14th, 2006, 10:50 AM
QUOTE: If it doesn’t affect “MY” breathing, than [sic] I don’t worry about it. UNQUOTE
[QUOTE]Keep in mind, I like to argue points, not attack people:
Not a problem, this is what the BBS is all about...:D
What I meant about "MY" breathing, is if someone does something that doesn't affect "my space", then it is their right to do so....I am not in charge of their life...but...if they cross the line and it affect my life or my family...then I have a right to take some type of action.
It would be like someone. telling me not to operate my daycare, because they don't like kids...lol...I don't think so....it's none of there business, just so long I or my business doesn't affect "their space"..
OK your turn...lol
warrior-scholar
September 14th, 2006, 11:07 AM
I think you have actually touched upon the issue at hand in this thread. As I argued earlier and as others have mentioned, it DOES affect our families, even if slowly and under the radar so to speak. The question now is: Do enough people care? Otherwise, our community changes (however large or small) in a way that makes many people uncomfortable. It becomes the rights/preferences of one group pitted against the rights/preferences of another.
acoolmom777
September 14th, 2006, 11:13 AM
Who am I to stand in judgment of how this person makes a living or runs his life? The truth be known, I don’t care, it is and will be between him and his higher power. Man judging man is just wrong. It falls in the category of he believes…she believes and we could argue that all day.
What I do care about is it will tick me off if he gets the zoning changed, because I was trying to do that for the expanding of my daycare and was turned down (same zoning too).
Do I like the idea of a strip club in Maysville KY USA…NO….Is it this mans right to open or expand his business….YES…..
It falls back to if the people spend their money there. Not one penny of my money will be handed in at the door, so therefore I will not be supporting his business.
warrior-scholar
September 14th, 2006, 11:19 AM
QUOTE:Who am I to stand in judgment of how this person makes a living or runs his life? The truth be known, I don’t care, it is and will be between him and his higher power. Man judging man is just wrong. It falls in the category of he believes…she believes and we could argue that all day.UNQUOTE
Sounds like a God/Higher Power issue???
I am not sure why this keeps coming back up. I don't really see any recent comments from anyone that invoke such ideas.
Why is "man judging man" wrong? The court system does it every day? Or do you mean in a "moral" sense? When other people's "decisions" affect my way of living and my community, darn right I will "judge" those decisions and actions. The type of "judging" that is wrong is one of a religious/eternal nature and isn't really proper to discuss in this thread since we have moved away from that.
Final Note: (I am closing my comments on this thread.)
I am merely trying to stand up for the rights of those wishing to voice opposition to such a business. Whether it is legal, moral etc. for this business to exist is not the point. People need to argue both sides of an issue to find a clearer picture.
acoolmom777
September 14th, 2006, 11:42 AM
QUOTE: As long as it isn't hurting you, what makes a difference how they earn their money? Sad or not, there is a market for it, morally right or not, there is a demand. Judge not lest ye be judged. UNQUOTE
When will people stop ripping this single verse from the Bible out of context and use it to basically tell people to shut up or leave me alone?
Anyway, you can say such a business is immoral or morally acceptable. You can argue that women need such work to go to college (laughable) or feed starving kids. All we can really do is say we don't condone such behavior/business and make it public knowledge. Decency never squelches undecency, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying. When people begin to accept and engage in behaviors many of us believe to be immoral, then it is only a matter of time before they become more public and commonplace. They will assert their "rights" as citizens and get what they want. Our government no longer has a moral foundation to hold it up-they kicked the 10 commandments out, so now it becomes a matter of public assent. Enough from me...........
That is post #50
I am not employed thru the court system, therefore I will not judge and tell me how this mans business will effect your way of living??? Are you going to give him your hard earned money??…
Lets take religion and any morals out of this….
This is a business that a lot of people don’t want in Maysville, but if this man follows all of the guidelines for a business in this community then there is nothing left to hold it back…. will it survive??? Not if the people of this community don’t support it with their money.
If the people don’t want this business…Don’t Support It….
I personally think it is a discussing business to be in…but that’s me. I had a friend that was a stripper in Florida that was a choice she made not me. Was she a bad person…No…will she be commend to hell…not my judgment... did I try and get her to change her place of employment…Sure… Did I stop being her friend…NO
Chuck
September 14th, 2006, 03:18 PM
Why is "man judging man" wrong? The court system does it every day? Or do you mean in a "moral" sense? When other people's "decisions" affect my way of living and my community, darn right I will "judge" those decisions and actions. The type of "judging" that is wrong is one of a religious/eternal nature and isn't really proper to discuss in this thread since we have moved away from that.
Final Note: (I am closing my comments on this thread.)
I am merely trying to stand up for the rights of those wishing to voice opposition to such a business. Whether it is legal, moral etc. for this business to exist is not the point. People need to argue both sides of an issue to find a clearer picture.
Agreed.
Disagreed would only be the court reference. Crimes against people as opposed to judging against a lifestyle preference. I see it as 2 distinct different arguments about judging and so does the Bible.
If you wanted English laws and tyranny we should have never ran them off. I would like to believe we did the whole "Revolutionary War" thingy for a freedom of choice and lifestyle, that and a couple other really good reasons.
braydonsmom
September 18th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Let's bring up old news....
I am all for Tommy Henderson and his Auto Club coming to Mason County. You don't have to patron his establishment if you don't like, and as long as you don't go there, it doesn't harm you in the slightest. At least he is trying to go out in the county.
TheMan
September 19th, 2006, 01:38 AM
The county has people living in it also...
tiger_n2_dragon
September 19th, 2006, 02:41 AM
Let's bring up old news....
I am all for Tommy Henderson and his Auto Club coming to Mason County. You don't have to patron his establishment if you don't like, and as long as you don't go there, it doesn't harm you in the slightest. At least he is trying to go out in the county.
Looking at the big picture...these clubs bring more to town than just dancers. Therefore, the people who are protesting this is probably more concerned with the problems that will follow it, than the actual club itself. With that said, yes it does effect the whole community no matter where it's located! If you've ever lived in a city with a few of these around, you've obviously seen the difference in the atmosphere there compared to here in Maysville. If you think it wont happen here, you are sadly mistaken. It has corrupted communities like this before and it will have no mercy here. I don't know about anyone else but, I like having a safe place for my children to grow up! What we do today affects our children tomorrow! -Tn2D
lbt1964
September 19th, 2006, 02:51 AM
I agree 100% with you on that.
darkgray75
September 19th, 2006, 10:37 PM
Looking at the big picture...these clubs bring more to town than just dancers. Therefore, the people who are protesting this is probably more concerned with the problems that will follow it, than the actual club itself. With that said, yes it does effect the whole community no matter where it's located! If you've ever lived in a city with a few of these around, you've obviously seen the difference in the atmosphere there compared to here in Maysville. If you think it wont happen here, you are sadly mistaken. It has corrupted communities like this before and it will have no mercy here. I don't know about anyone else but, I like having a safe place for my children to grow up! What we do today affects our children tomorrow! -Tn2D
AMEN Couldn't have said it better myself. lolol:)
tiggerrgal333
September 20th, 2006, 01:41 AM
I think everyone makes choices and what do poeple think that because there is a strip joint coming close to home that it will be a temptation or something?? I don't have a problem with Tommy bringing a strip joint here, it is nothing different than what is already going on anyway... I mean come on we are a small town but how is it going to corrupt our children, when they see more on tv and movies anyway.. and on video games, sex is everywhere it is in the kids cartoons it is everywhere so what difference is a strip club going to make? Why be closed off and nieve about things, I have 3 kids and yes i want to protect them from things but i don't want them so closed off and nieve the way that i was being raised in this town.. Maysville is growing so much and so many different types of people now live here it is not the same little divided town it was when i was growing up... I am not going to the club but i did see the one in aberdeen before it became the auto adult club and he really did a great job designing it.. lol
tiger_n2_dragon
September 20th, 2006, 03:39 AM
I think everyone makes choices and what do poeple think that because there is a strip joint coming close to home that it will be a temptation or something?? I don't have a problem with Tommy bringing a strip joint here, it is nothing different than what is already going on anyway...
Guess your right, Maysville is a little dull it could use a little more sex, drugs and violence on its streets to keep the cops from getting bored.
I mean come on we are a small town but how is it going to corrupt our children, when they see more on TV and movies anyway.. and on video games, sex is everywhere it is in the kids cartoons it is everywhere so what difference is a strip club going to make? Why be closed off and naive about things, I have 3 kids and yes i want to protect them from things but i don't want them so closed off and naive the way that i was being raised in this town..
While we're at it, why don't we take our kid's on a field trip to Los Vegas so they can see a real brothel? Heck let’s not stop there, let’s tour the country so they can see what Maysville doesn’t have. If they like what they see maybe they can get their parents to move them there so they don't feel left out, naive, or sheltered. I grew up in big cities, I was a truck driver for 4 1/2 years, there’s not much I haven’t seen. This is mainly why I moved my family here in the first place. Here’s an idea for you, do a search on crime rates. Compare Maysville to other cities in the U.S. In 2001 before we moved here the national average was 100, Maysville was a 36, Chicago was over 400.
Maysville is growing so much and so many different types of people now live here it is not the same little divided town it was when i was growing up... I am not going to the club but i did see the one in Aberdeen before it became the auto adult club and he really did a great job designing it.. lol
Well if people want to go to a strip club they have other options. What positive influence could this strip club possibly have on our community? I think the negatives out weigh the positives but, I've been wrong before. –Tn2D
marymw
September 20th, 2006, 10:35 AM
People are worried about the bad elements that come along with a strip club? Evidently these particular people do not reside in "Eastland". I see worse than that every day on my street.
tiger_n2_dragon
September 20th, 2006, 02:58 PM
People are worried about the bad elements that come along with a strip club? Evidently these particular people do not reside in "Eastland". I see worse than that every day on my street.
People interpret things the way they want to. Nobody said Maysville was perfect. Yes we have our own problems but, why add more on top of what already exist? Some people are so narrow minded they can't see the BIGGER picture. I don't know why we bothered with this anyway, if the city didn't change the zoning for a children's daycare or a pet boarding facility they're not going to for a strip club! -Tn2D
tiggerrgal333
September 20th, 2006, 08:42 PM
I just don't see what the fuss is about, the girls around here practically walk around naked anyway so what is the differnce, kids see what i think are bikinis at the pool and stuff like that so what is the difference about a strip joint, parents are letting there kids run wild and not giving a about what they are doing and you want to argue about a strip club I think there are far more important things to worry about around here
darkgray75
September 20th, 2006, 09:35 PM
People are worried about the bad elements that come along with a strip club? Evidently these particular people do not reside in "Eastland". I see worse than that every day on my street.
Most of the unpleasant things that happen on the streets usally happen at night when most children are in bed or at least in the house. I see alot of things at night, homeless walking streets, hookers walking streets, drug dealers making deals, and many other things. But the thing is our children are not out at that time of night to see all that. If a strip club is opened up then they can see what goes on in the day time. I understand Maysville is lucky to not have as much crime as the big cities but we still do have crime. The only thing we can do as adults is try to teach our children the best that we can do. Teach them what is wrong and what is right and that God is alive and to keep Him in their hearts. Pray to God and He will do what He sees fit to be done. What will be will be no matter what anyone thinks about it.
marymw
September 21st, 2006, 09:15 AM
Not EVERYTHING happens at night. I personally have witnessed several drug deals right in FRONT of children in the afternoon. Besides, most of the children are running out at night. I see money and little plastic baggies exchange hands constantly. I hear drug deals being made in the alley beside my house. I see people on their BICYCLES for heaven's sakes exchanging drugs and money. These aren't adults doing this, these are children. There are people moving out of my neighborhood who have lived there for years because of the drug problems. When I get up in the morning and walk outside of my house there are liquor bottles thrown into my yard. I don't even want to talk about what I find thrown into my bushes. Maybe the children aren't out at night where you live, but in my neighborhood they are constantly out at night without supervision. The weekend is the worse, children out till two or three in the morning yelling up and down the street, while their so called parents are sitting on their porch drinking, the music turned up, arguing, cursing, sometimes crying. People are worried about a strip club? That is the least of my worries.