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Chuck
July 4th, 2006, 11:22 AM
By SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The justice minister demanded Tuesday that the U.N. Security Council ensure that a group of U.S. troops are punished in the alleged rape and murder of a young Iraqi and the killing of her family, calling the attack "monstrous and inhuman."

Two female legislators also called for Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to be summoned to parliament to give assurances that justice would be done.

Meanwhile, gunmen in camouflage uniforms kidnapped Deputy Electricity Minister Raed al-Hares, along with 11 of his bodyguards in eastern Baghdad, security officials said.

The gunmen stopped al-Hares' convoy in the Shiite neighborhood of Talbiya, then forced the official and his bodyguards into their vehicles, said police Lt. Ahmed Qassim.

The kidnapping occurred three days after gunmen seized female Sunni legislator Tayseer al-Mashhadani in a Shiite area of east Baghdad. She and seven bodyguards are still missing.

The March 12 attack on the family in Mahmoudiya, south of Baghdad, was among the worst in a series of cases of U.S. troops accused of killing and abusing Iraqi civilians. Iraq's largest newspaper, Azzaman, said in an editorial Tuesday the rape "summarizes what has been going in Iraq for the past years not only by the American occupation army, but also by some Iraqi groups."

Former Pfc. Steven D. Green appeared in federal court in Charlotte, N.C., on Monday to face murder and rape charges. At least four other U.S. soldiers still in Iraq are under investigation, and the military has stressed it is taking the allegations seriously.

"If this act actually happened, it constitutes an ugly and unethical crime, monstrous and inhuman," said Justice Minister Hashim Abdul-Rahman al-Shebli, a Sunni Arab. "The Iraqi judiciary should be informed about this investigation which should be conducted under supervision of international and human organizations. Those involved should face justice."

"The ugliness of this crime demands a swift intervention of the U.N. Security Council to stop these violations of human rights and to condemn them so that they will not happen again," he added.

The two lawmakers, Safiya al-Suhail and Ayda al-Sharif, said condemnation was not enough.

"We demand severe punishment for the five soldiers involved," al-Sharif said. "Denouncements are not enough. If this act has taken place in another country, the world would have turned upside down."

Al-Suhail said al-Maliki should appear before parliament "to make sure investigations are taking place."

Mahmoudiya Mayor Mouayad Fadhil said Iraqi authorities have started their own investigation and that he had asked the hospital where the victims were taken for more details.

Green is accused of raping the woman and killing her and three relatives — an adult male and female and a girl estimated to be 5 years old. An official familiar with the investigation said he set fire to the rape victim's body in an apparent cover-up attempt.

Iraqi authorities identified the rape victim as Abeer Qassim Hamza. The other victims were her father, Qassim Hamza, her mother, Fikhriya Taha, and her sister, Hadeel Qassim Hamza.

The affidavit estimated the rape victim was about 25. But a doctor at the Mahmoudiya hospital gave her age as 14. He refused to be identified for fear of reprisals.

Mahdi Obeid, a neighbor, said that on March 12, he saw fire coming from the house. He rushed over to find Abeer's body on fire. He extinguished the flames and saw bullet wounds in her head and chest.

"It was a horrible scene," he said. "If I could go back in time, I would have not dared enter the house. I cannot wipe those barbaric scenes from my memory."

An insurgent group, the Mujahedeen Army, distributed an account of the incident on an Islamist Web site. It appeared the report, which generally corresponded with details already made public, was designed to draw attention to the deaths and stir up hostility against the U.S. military.

The Azzaman newspaper expressed skepticism the soldiers would be severely punished.

"The U.S. Army will conduct an investigation and the result at best is already known. One or two U.S. soldiers will receive a 'touristic punishment' and the whole crime will be forgotten as it happened with Abu Ghraib criminals," the newspaper said, referring to the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. guards at a prison in west Baghdad.

Iraqi authorities, meanwhile, imposed an 11 p.m. to 5 a.m. car and pedestrian curfew in Basra to bolster a state of emergency that has failed to curb increasing violence in the southern city. The measure will take effect on Friday, police Col. Karim al-Zeidi said.

A roadside bomb struck a police patrol in eastern Baghdad, killing three policemen and wounding three others, Lt. Bilal Ali said.

Police also found six bodies of construction workers in Baghdad — four who were shot in the head and left near a Sunni mosque and two others — a Shiite and a Sunni — who were left in a different location, Lt. Maitam Abdul-Razzaq said.

A Sunni sheik who was shot by gunmen on Monday in Fallujah died of his wounds and large numbers of clerics and other mourners participated in a funeral procession.

(Source (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060704/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq))

Foxy
July 4th, 2006, 03:14 PM
Omg

acoolmom777
July 5th, 2006, 09:29 AM
Americans or not these are the beast of the human race and should be given the hardest faith possible. There is and always will be this type of human walking the earth, they are called...evil beings.

Foxy
July 5th, 2006, 02:20 PM
too true, acoolmom777!!

tkcomer
July 5th, 2006, 02:45 PM
War is a terrible thing and terrible things happen. You can’t expect to take a teenager and train him to kill and maim and not expect a few of these incidents to happen. Anger, rage, outright fear of the general population, coupled with a lack of command lead to these things. Overworked and overwrought in a time of war breaks down a lot of people’s minds. Even leaders have been known to break down. If true, you can’t excuse what he (Or they) did. But at least be opened minded about what goes on in war. Accept the fact that a few of our finest break down. Especially in a long conflict like this. As a civilian, I’m certainly in no position to judge him. He needs to judged by a jury of his peers. And only those that have been in combat can do that. We now know they are not fighting to protect this country. He knows it too. Please don’t direct your anger at him. Direct your anger at the people that put him there.

Chuck
July 5th, 2006, 02:51 PM
I think the military is not exempt from hiring people that commit crimes. Criminals make it in to every work place. The difference is only that the crime happened overseas.

They get special protection because of being in the military but are still responsible for the crime. Did the war situation help create the problem? Maybe. I would bet the people that did this would have eventually did the same crime here in the USA.

Our Military men should NOT get a black eye for the actions of a few criminals.

tkcomer
July 5th, 2006, 03:42 PM
I tend to disagree. Criminals plot and plan their actions. In times of war, it is well documented how some people break down and do heinous things. Nice kids can do horrible things in times of war. We make them kill civilians by the thousands to root out a few hundred of the enemy. Not pretty, just the facts. A lot of acts of bravery have been by individuals that just gave up and charged. The ones that lived got medals. War is pure savagery. My father wouldn’t even talk about what went on in Korea. Grandmother said he screamed for months in his sleep after he got back. Maybe this kid was a bully before he joined. We used to force juvenile delinquents to join to “straighten” them out. Sometimes it worked. Sometimes it didn’t. Talk to a person that has been in combat. You’ll hear nothing but silence from them. Even from the nicest guys. That should tell you something.

acoolmom777
July 5th, 2006, 03:42 PM
true Chuck and tk, but I feel the same way Military or Civilian, there is no excuse acceptable for that type of behavior.

tkcomer
July 5th, 2006, 05:37 PM
You’re right. There is no excuse. But if he is found guilty, it will be for “disgracing the uniform and disobeying orders.” The military understands these breakdowns. If that’s what it was. But they must punish harshly anyone who doesn’t follow orders. And the penalty will be harsher if the media, who doesn’t understand the pressures of combat, demands it. You can’t question your orders. Or chaos will result. Plus, this is Iraq. Hard to tell friend from foe. Way too many claims against our finest have proven to be false.