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kdown
May 16th, 2006, 08:04 AM
Since the 9/11 terrorist attacks, support for the United States has poured in from around the world, but the response from Mexico has been decidedly lukewarm. A Gallup poll reported that 78 percent of Mexicans oppose contributing troops to a multinational coalition, and we have seen no indication that Mexico will modify its oil policy of acting like a member of OPEC.

While there is no evidence that the 9/11 terrorists entered over the Mexican border, the trial in El Paso of an Iraqi smuggler produced evidence that he alone brought more than 1,000 Middle East illegals into the United States via that route, charging his clients $10,000 to $15,000 each. Border Patrol agents have confirmed the increase in illegal aliens coming from the Middle East across our southern border and the fact that Arabs pay up to $50,000 each for a "coyote" to smuggle them into the United States.

The 9/11 events have temporarily shelved the foolish proposals to grant amnesty to three million Mexicans illegally living in our country. Unfortunately, there is no indication that Mexico has retreated from its longtime goal of opening the U.S. border.

In Chicago on July 27, 1997, then Mexican President Ernesto Zedilla told the National Council of LaRaza, "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders." He announced a Mexican constitutional amendment that purports to allow Mexicans to retain their Mexican nationality even though they become U.S. citizens (which is contrary to the U.S. naturalization oath).

When President Vicente Fox came to the United States this year, he reiterated this line, proclaiming that "the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders" and includes migrants living in the United States. He called for open borders and endorsed Mexico's new dual citizenship law.

Some Mexicans use the term "reconquista," which is Spanish for reconquest, to describe their desire to see California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas acquired by Mexico and named the new country of Aztlan. They are teaching their youth that the United States "stole" those areas from Mexico and that they should be "returned."

The United States acquired the Southwest a century and a half ago in three ways: part by the 1845 annexation agreement with Texas, which was then an independent republic, part ceded by Mexico in the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo after the Mexican-American War, and part by the 1852 Gadsden Purchase

Mexico's claim to the Southwest originated with the 1494 Treaty of Tordesillas, which drew an imaginary line on the map to divide the Western Hemisphere between Spain and Portugal. Because geography had so many unknowns at that time, Portugal got only Brazil (which is why Brazilians speak Portuguese).

Other countries never recognized this treaty, and Americans consider it ridiculous even to talk about giving the Southwest to Mexico. Most national borders all over the world have come about as the result of war.

Mexicans obviously have no thought of invading the Southwest with troops, so their hope is reconquista by migration, both legal and illegal. According to Mario Obledo, founder of the Mexican American Legal Defense & Education Fund, "California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave."

An amnesty rally in the Los Angeles Sports Arena on June 10, 2000 attracted 25,000 people. In demanding amnesty for illegal Mexican aliens, the speakers proudly announced the names of at least a dozen unions in Los Angeles that are now headed by Mexicans.

Vicente Fox presented Mexico's Congress with a five-year development plan to eliminate the U.S.-Mexican border. He said he plans to serve "the 100 million Mexicans who now live in Mexico and the more than 18 million who live abroad," and to "strengthen our ability to protect and defend the rights of all Mexicans abroad."

Juan Hernandez, appointed by Fox as special liaison to Mexicans abroad, lobbies to get U.S. driver's licenses issued to illegal aliens and defends the Mexican government's issuance of desert survival kits to those sneaking across the border. On ABC's Nightline on June 7, he boasted: "We are betting that the Mexican-American population in the United States ... will think Mexico first."

Fox's five-year plan calls for building a larger consular presence in the United States, and this is already in operation. In U.S. areas with large Hispanic (including illegal) populations, the Mexican consul donates to the local public schools the same textbooks that are used in every elementary school in Mexico, grades 1 through 6.

The books, written in Spanish and including all academic subjects, teach that America "stole" the southwest from Mexico and that Mexico is entitled to take it back. The Mexican government considers these textbooks a symbol of Mexican national pride, guarantees a set to every Mexican child, and makes it a crime for anyone to sell them.

The only reason we learned about this Mexican plan is that one school in Santa Ana, California, decided to sell the books at a book fair and the local Hispanics kicked up a fuss about it. The school apologized to the Hispanics for selling the books, but should have apologized to the students for accepting the books in the first place.

The question we should ask our Mexican immigrant friends is, are you assimilating or invading?

dpolley
May 16th, 2006, 10:49 AM
How weak has this country become? If our government had backbone this would not be an issue. Seems to me that Mexico should remember who it's friends are. If we're going to send unarmed National Guardsmen to "police" the border, why not throw in a few dozen Apache helicopters for good measure. It's time to stop this foolishness and take our country back. We all may come from immigrants, but we are Americans and this is AMERICA, not Northern Mexico.

kdown
May 16th, 2006, 10:56 AM
I agree, however, I just heard yesterday that the Mexicans living in the U.S. produce more income for the country of Mexico than is produced by the people living in Mexico.

jacquie
May 16th, 2006, 01:19 PM
[b][/bi Think That We Should Not Only Focus On The Mexican Border But The Canadian Border Also...i Know That The Terroist Also Crossed That Way Also...now Im For The Mexicans Getting Work Permits..only If They Do It The Right Way...i Know Its Not Easy To Get A Work Permit Cause My Husband & I Are Trying...not All Mexicans Want To Take Over The Usa...my Husband Just Wants To Work & Take Care Of His Family...its Not Easy In Mexico...ive Been There & Believe Me I Wouldnt Want To Live That Way...i Believe That Not Everyone Should Get Green Cards But The Ones That Have Been Obeying The American Laws & Been Here For Years Not Causing Any Problems Should Be Able To Stay & Work...they Should Have To Know How To Read & Write English To Stay...they Should Have To Take The Ins Test In English Also...im Really Torn About This Issue Cause I Love My Husband & My Step Son...but Also Im An American That Believes In Protecting Our Country...i Do Believe That We Should Stop The Illegals From Coming Over Here Right Now But Lets Do It The Right Way....lets Stop Giving The President Of Mexico Money & Let Him Deal With His Own People...

tkcomer
May 17th, 2006, 09:43 AM
First off, the government of Mexico is horribly corrupt. That’s why the people of Mexico are coming here. Second, the businesses of the US want cheap labor. Either by putting factories in Mexico or hiring illegals to avoid paying a decent wage and or benefits. This will not be solved by the current members of congress or Bush. They would not dare use sanctions because of the investments of big business in Mexico. Since they are friends of big business, they will not stop the flow of illegals either. But they are getting a little nervous because this issue has blown up so close to election time. The voters are getting upset over the war and immigration issues. This bunch will take this issue and blow it out of proportion without really doing anything. This is one of the many things they will use to get people’s minds off the war. And it will work. National Guard at the border? We have 11 MILLION illegals already here. Those troops will disappear as soon as the election is over. If the current crop of incumbents get to hold on to their seats, this problem will never go away. What ol’ Abe should have said was that you could fool a majority of the voters all of the time.

kdown
May 17th, 2006, 11:07 AM
What Constitutes an “Invasion”?

The Founders had invasion in mind. They mentioned it four times in the Constitution, without ever defining it. Here are the citations:

Article I, Section 8, Paragraph 15: The Congress shall have the Power (to) provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 2: The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

Article I, Section 10, Paragraph 3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Article IV, Section 4, Paragraph 1: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestics Violence.

In the Crosshairs of Invasion

With an estimated 20 million aliens illegally in the United States and perhaps an additional 3 million added annually to that number, “It's fair to estimate, based on a Time investigation, that the number of illegal aliens flooding into the U.S. this year will total 3 million --” Time Magazine, September 20, 2004." The question arises: Does this constitute an “invasion?” If not, what would an invasion look like? If yes, then what should the federal government be doing, in the words of Article IV, Section 4 to “protect each of them (the States) against invasion”?

“The simple truth is that we've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive. We ignore America's lost sovereignty at our peril.”
- Ronald Reagan

“Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life.”
- John F Kennedy

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.

tkcomer
May 17th, 2006, 12:56 PM
Hmmmm. Congress shall… This congress won’t. Which is why we have the problem. And why should they honor the Constitution? The majority of the voters won’t throw them out, so they approve of what congress is doing. Don’t they?

Chuck
May 17th, 2006, 02:22 PM
I think it just is a really been weak handling of a bad situation for many years. The people have been screaming to have this problem dealt with for many years and it has fall in on deaf government ears.

I have no ideas or solutions to the problem but can say I don't like the way it is being handle or has been handled in the past. But what can you do at this point.

kdown
May 17th, 2006, 03:11 PM
You're correct. It is a complex problem.
1. What do we do about the estimated 10 to 20 illegals already living and working in this country ?
2. How do we stop the estimated 3 million that come each year ?
3. What do we do about U.S. employers who are hiring illegals, not withholding income taxes, not paying social security, local taxes, etc. ?
4. Why is it the states responsibility to protect our border with their National Guard people ?
5. Why should the families of National Guard people have to sacrifice for the good of all ?
6. Why should illegals have the same benefits that legal citizens pay for ?
7. Why is this issue suddenly on the national front burner ?
8. What has Florida, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California done to help themselves ?

Whew>>>>This is wearing me out......LOL

Jeremy
May 17th, 2006, 04:40 PM
7. Why is this issue suddenly on the national front burner ?


I have a theory about this one. It's because of HBO. No seriously, just a few months back they had an HBO movie on called "Walk Out" that told the story of legal Mexican immigrants who stood up for their rights in the 60s. I don't think that it's a coincidence that the huge march in LA happened within a few weeks of the HBO movie airing. I believe Mexican Americans in LA were inspired by the very inspiring movie Walk Out and decided to have their own march. The march was huge and caught the attention of politicians who needed one of those "high conflict" election issues I've talked about before. Democrats see it as a way to swing the minority vote and Republicans see it as a way to incense people to the polls.

Bottom line, politicians didn't really care about the issue in December 2005 and they won't care about it in December 2006.

kdown
May 18th, 2006, 09:36 AM
Just a tip of the iceburg

At the Yuma station, which oversees 62 miles of the border, authorities said agents are catching 300 to 450 immigrants a day, which is comparable to last year's numbers, but they are seeing unusual spikes, including 840 on a single day in March.

Law enforcement authorities said the number of those who slip through is greater than the number caught, but they would not give any figures.

Along the entire 125-mile Yuma sector, of which the Yuma station is a part, Border Patrol agents have made 95,000 arrests since Oct. 1, a 13 percent increase from this time last year, authorities said. The number of Border Patrol agents assigned to the sector has double to around 700 in the past year.

dpolley
May 18th, 2006, 11:52 AM
And now the most incredible news of the day (yesterday, actually): Mexico is planning lawsuits against our government if we use Our troops to enforce OUR law and keep illegals out! Go figure. According to Mexico's Foreign Minister we have no right to protect and guard our borders. Pretty brave of him considering that we (Americans) pay countless millions or billions to save Mexico from going under. If they had a working economy and didn't have 40% of their population living in poverty perhaps their citizens wouldn't be running to another country. Oh yeah, that's what Vincente Fox wants. And a majority of our government wants to be Fox's friend, so we're basically sc****d!!!

tkcomer
May 18th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Once again, if the incumbents win November elections in big numbers, which they will, this mess will be OUR fault. Unless there is a huge turnover, congress will NOT change. Politicians on both sides will not cross their big campaign donors. Mexico wants their people to cross the border. Those illegals sent money back home and their families pump that money into the Mexican economy. Not ours. Republicans are mad at Bush because he is for these illegals coming here. It takes them away from campaigning on their core issues. Abortion, 10 Commandments and gay marriage. Those are the issues they use to stir up the religious right to get them to the polls. And then they do nothing after the election. Just like they will on illegal immigration.

Craftsman
May 18th, 2006, 08:16 PM
Once again, if the incumbents win November elections in big numbers, which they will, this mess will be OUR fault.

A lot of times I miss which elected official voted for what. I am not sure if the question has been asked before but why can't the Ledger include a page on how our elected officials voted for the week? I know I’d like to know more on how our elected officials vote after I hear it on the nightly news.