Caught on tape - Help identify -

[ponto]

Sunday December 19, 2005 5:05 PM - The couple shown in the BBS video screen are alledgedly stealing a laptop from Radio Shack in Maysville.


If you have information about the people on this video, call the Maysville Police Dept.

http://www.maysvillekybbs.com/media/mpd1.asf

[Foxy]

Good video!
I hope you catch them!
I try watching the vide but it keeps pausing, and i have to keep clicking the Play button.

[Chuck]

First time through it will. It should play good after that. If not post and I will tell you how to turn on your cache Internet files so it will save to your hard drive.

[snowtiger]

It only got so far with me, then it locked up my whole computer twice. I didn't get to see the whole thing. Anybody recognize them?

[Foxy]

As usual, you are correct Chuck. It is playing fine now.
By the way, I do like this feature. Hopefully it will help find the people responsible for raising the costs on merchandise for those of us that pay for things!!

[herbmania1999]

I thought the video played great. It really is of high quality at full screen. Clear enough for anyone to identify. I think they live out of town, but has family in the area, but as with all theives.., I think they should take a trip behind the jail before going in. Hope they get caught soon. Maybe they will try to use it on line. We all know that each computer has its own id. I dont think they ever thought of that aspect of it.

[snowtiger]

Ok, yeah, you were right Chuck, I was just too impatient, LOL. I don't recognize them either. Good idea herbmania, I'll check it out again at full screen.

[snowtiger]

Ughhh, how do you get it full screen? I right clicked on it but the option for full screen wouldn't highlight it so I couldn't choose it.

[Chuck]

You might need to look for "Zoom" then you will see "Full Screen". Some will just need to right click to see the full screen option.

[snowtiger]

Thanks for all your patience Chuck, you CAN see it better now. Can you all tell if he is wearing glasses?

[acoolmom777]

If you put the url in your media player you can get a really clear pic...don't know them but have shown all the people that have been coming and going at my house...I am thinking of installing a rotating door...lol

[annieap]

Tried the rotating door...I got halfway around and couldnt remember if I was coming or going. By the time I remembered I was too dizzy to care...LMAO!!!

[countrygirl]

This Woman Looks Formiliar..maybe Did She Work At Long John Silvers In Maysville? Not Sure!!

[mark]

..............wish I did know them. I hate to see Chuck & kelly lose an expensive piece of equipment.

I hope someone recognizes them & they get busted!!!! .........see ya mark

[ponto]

The Ledger Independent ran an article that links to the BBS in today's Newspaper about this crime.

This is a great day in Maysville as we work together, to make Maysville a safer place to live, work and play.

Read Article (http://www.maysville-online.com/articles/2005/12/20/local_news/173stolen.txt)

Now let's catch these (alleged) criminals and get them out of our town.

Anyone with information about the man and woman, whose identities have not been determined, can call the police at 606-564-9411.

[cdshaq]

She's Busted! He's Next

[countrygirl]

That is great!!!!!! Best news I have heard all day!!! Hope they get him too!!

[Chuck]

Caught her in Auto Zone from the picture that was printed in the Ledger. The picture was printed from the video we have here.

The Police did a search on her home but did not find any of the stolen items from what I understand. She had 2 male accomplices, one of which was a star in the made for BBS movie. The other male made a special guest appearance in the video being a look out.

Seems he then went next door to Cingular and purchased a Cell Calling Card.

Thanks go to allot of people over this. Maysville PD and the lady at Auto Zone for her sharp eye are big ones that come to mind.

The conclusion will come when the others are brought to justice.

[tlew2005]

Are you sure they have the right person?

[mark]

Caught her in Auto Zone from the picture that was printed in the Ledger. The picture was printed from the video we have here.




....................I love it !! I hope she rats out the dude soon...........see ya mark

[Chuck]

Are you sure they have the right person?

I personally will never be sure until a court of law says she is guilty. The rest is just reported information.

[ponto]

Maysville police said Thursday that one of the people suspected in a theft at the Maysville Radio Shack store has been arrested.

Tammy L. Lewis, 45, of Vanceburg, was arrested at a restaurant where she works.

Police are still looking for the man that can be seen in the surveillance video.

[tlew2005]

She was not caught in auto zone.
And the video is rather fuzzy.

[Foxy]

And the video is rather fuzzy.

Are you kidding? The video is great. I have seen my share of surveillance videos and this is one is of great quality.

[Chuck]

She was not caught in auto zone.
And the video is rather fuzzy.

This is posted information, Not a news source. I glad to hear you have all the fact. Rather than complain about what I post why don't you post information that you have.

Did you just come here to pick on me or what?

[kdown]

Whew........Is Chuck having a bad day ?

[tlew2005]

I just hope that the Mason County justice system does there job to the fullest and has the right person, Finds the other person(s) and good solid evidence other than just a fuzzy tape. Hopefully the place of crime was well dusted for prints (we can see that plenty were left behind) acording to the footage.

[Chuck]

In you words the video is too bad yet you seen enough to know that they left fingerprints.

I think you should be talking to the Maysville PD. You seem to have quite a bit of personal knowledge going on there about this case that was not printed anywhere.

The BBS is an information site. We don't publish the news we just talk about it. We don't convict people. We don't arrest people. We only post on information we get which is less than a rumor usually. So if your trying to make a case here you really shouldn't. Anyone can read these forums. Case you didn't know that.

[tlew2005]

Not trying to make a case just reading all the info and hoping that the people responsable are taken care of. There is no unprinted knowledge. Just hope that everything is being done to catch both suspects. from what I understand the person be held was caught from this video's photo, just hope that everything is being done to insure the right people are caught. there is enough going on that people should not have to worry about there businesses being robbed every holiday season and any other day inbetween.

[Anonymous Coward]

i for one am gald that this video was put on here. It let's people who are thieving know that there are people looking for them.
And anyone who is stupid enough to rob from a business near where they work deserves to be caught.
These thieves and others make buying ANYTHING harder for the rest of us because businesses must raise their prices to make up for the stolen merchandise.

[mark]

Maysville police said Thursday that one of the people suspected in a theft at the Maysville Radio Shack store has been arrested.

Tammy L. Lewis, 45, of Vanceburg, was arrested at a restaurant where she works.

Police are still looking for the man that can be seen in the surveillance video.


................I still hope she rats on the dude, he needs to be caught! .............see ya mark

[Chuck]

Whew........Is Chuck having a bad day ?

LOL Ken, Yes I was having a bad da and I hope today gets better.

[gwfleamail]

I was enjoying my meal, when the officer came in where the lady works, not long jon silver, but she worked at tumbleweed. I hope they find out who was with her in the picture. please, not a slap on the wrist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!shop lifting , is why we have to pay high prices!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Foxy]

Did anyone read the letter to the editor from this woman's husband? Very interesting reading. I think it was in Thursday or Friday's Ledger Independant.

[kool2006]

Yes, i read the letter to the editor and i feel sorry for the lady and her family . its sounds to me that her husband must be half blind ,b/c the letter said that he couldn't see well without his glasses or magnifying glass. So if he isnt able to see without glasses and a magnifying glass then they really couldn't use that as a identification from a family member. So then the letter had said that (tammie) had a alibi for that day ? I wonder if that has got to be heard yet. And I have to use my better judement and agree with tlew2005. To say I wonder if they have the right person or not.

[yogibear1954]

You know I seen the video pictures and I have read all of the articles about this situation and I think that they were sorry pictures and police reports both. Just like I think about these opinions of most of this in this rap session. Some people in here must have just look at these pictures and not read the articles. Where did Auto Zone fit into this the newspaper said Advanced Auto. The accused womans husband according to his letter to the editor she had been in Advanced Auto Parts. But then at the same time then some people said that was the best video picture they had seen. So if that is the case if that is the best they had ever seen then it and all they had seen before it is all sorry.

[Chuck]

Your opinion is welcome, your crude comments are not.

Let the police deal with it. We just post information, only what you see here so far,,, we have no more info, just rumor. I would bet that the Police Dept. will not show up here to argue a case with you or anyone.

If you could learn to read dates you would see that was posted the day before the newspaper release and was preliminary information.

Have a nice day.

[yogibear1954]

Sorry you had a bad day one day last week. But how would you like it if you sent your wife to the parts house and she was falsely arrested in her place of work and accused and identified by Advanced Auto Parts somebody that don't even know her. Caused her to go to jail, and tricked her husband into believing that she had been cheating on him for months with some guy that they don't even know. And her husband can't see to read a phone book, newspaper or even see them fuzzy pictures without glasses or magnifying glass. She spent one week in jail through the christmas holidays asked for her bond to be reduced for 10% from 5,000 to 500 and county prosuctors said no because they have charges against her for robbery and theift which turned out a week later before plerminary hearing a man records stapled to the back of hers holding her another week because of those and then when she did go into court know one apologized for stapling someone elses records to the back of hers. Then that made her two weeks in jail all of christmas and new years and then all of you morans can get on this rap sheet dog her down and use her name in the process. And I have no right to be rude. And you think that you had a bad day some where down the line. I think that you rap sheet sucks.

Her husband Fred Lewis,

Voice you opionion folks.

[yogibear1954]

Oh and by the way Chuck your quote "Never underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups." such as your law enforments and your courts.

Fred Lewis one of the stupid people whose wife is paying the price and being laughed at by the real theives and know body cares to find them. The real thieves license tag has been turned into the law and nothing has been done. Sorry i'm so stupid this is my last comment to this rap session. If this was your wife being falsely accused it might be a different story.

Signed stuped Fred Lewis husband of the accused.

[Chuck]

I think you should get an attorney. His advise is going to be better than mine.

You are looking at it way to deep from this angle. We post information and chat about it. We don't make this information up.

All I am saying is I would never argue my case in a public forum or the case of a friend or family member.

She is innocent till proven guilty in a court of law. Get an attorney.

[Anonymous Coward]

YogiBear,
No one is calling you stupid. First that is his signature, it says that on every post he makes, and it is a very true statement. Secondly, he was only saying that your opinions are welcome here, just not the crude comment you put in the begining of your for first post. Thridly, YOU are one of the ones who gave her name. I am sorry that you cannot see her in those photos, but from the mug shot at the police station, and the video it sure looks like her. And yes, it could also be a case of mistaken identity. However, maybe you should step outside the box and look in. There were TONS of finger prints on that equipment, do you HONESTLY think that they could hold her this long without some kind of eveidence, besides the tape? I doubt it. She is still in jail, right?
You are more than welcome to send a private message here to Chuck or myself with that tag info...lol... Just out of curiosity, though, how do you know they have a tag on a vehicle? My advice? Get a good attorney.

[yogibear1954]

With all do respect would I know or would I not know my wife ?, Once i seen the video I blowed it up with my glasses on and how could you tell me if it resembles my wife, if you dont know her? And how could you have access to her mug shots if your not a detective or one of maysvilles finest . Reason I know about the tag is b/c i found the two people in the mug shot , and turned it into the detectives, and nothing was done. And as far as the fingerprints I was the one that suggested it to the detectives to have that done. And my wifes finger prints were not found on any of the things in the Radio Shack. I would like to say this to you b/c i think you are trying to calm me down, I would like for someone to explain to me , how my wife got off of work on December 18th at 4:40 p.m. and this was suposed to happened at 5:08 P.M.,( let me throw this in to answer your ?) she got out of jail 1/4/06 but, she got off of work at 4:40 p.m. and that happen at 5:08 p.m. How could she have changed out of work clothes and into scruffies, and bought gas at Lykins Citgo , and then would have to had spent 10-15. minutes at Radio Shack and left, got rid of every thing and then changed back into work clothes and then went to Little Ceazars and got a ready made pizza for $5.00 and then drove to Vanceburg, Ky which is home , walked through the door with a hot pizza at 5:25p.m. and recieved a phone call from a nieghbor at 5:30p.m. so can you tell me in that length of time she come home with a hot pizza, and 35 minutes of that is road time and that would be driving 55-60 mph. So the whole thing in a nut shell she's(my wife) never been able to give any one her alibi. Point blank. I do thank you for your reply, as a concerned citizen but it is time , for the real truth to come out. And I do thank you again. Yogibear the husband of the accused , (dummie)

[Foxy]

I agree that you need an attorney! You really should not be calling yourself a dummie. I think that is a great service that you are doing for your wife, trying to prove her innocence. As a student studying law, you really need to tell these things to a good attorney, if you, or she, had one she would not still be sitting in jail. If you could not identify your wife's picture in the video, how the heck are you gonna identify a stranger AND get their license plate number? Also, when you blow up a picture from a video it tends to distort the image quite a bit, so it would be hard for any one to see a clear image. Just out of pure curiosity, have you seen the video posted here on the BBS?
BTW mug shots are public information, it is legal to view them, and most can be found online legally.

[kdown]

Hey Chuck, maybe its time to delete this thread.

[yogibear1954]

I just explained in my last comment. That she is not in jail anymore that she got out on 1/4/06. And once have I said I don't have an attorney when I do try to be decient and talk into due respect. Here comes the swords and knives again. Are you all judge and jury that you have made up your mind that my wife is the one and helping the real theives run, run. Then maybe you all need an attorney. Because you all read and see what you want. And here I am the dummy again because you all don't look close enough to read or see what you are writing. Is it to hard to believe that my wife is innocent and that the real theives are still at large. And what happens that I'm to stupid to know that the mug shot people the courts is opened to the public. You can get on here and say that my wife Tammie Lewis, 45 of Vanceburg is a thief but I'm not aloud to get on here and say that my wife Tammie Lewis, 45 of Vanceburg is innocent. In other words the law should back up and regroup and admit their wrong. Just go ahead and hang my wife to make them look good. And let the real thieves run around and do it again. And when the real thevies do this again who is going to get the blame then.

[Foxy]

Easy Yogi, I know you don't have an attorney, which is why we all suggested you get one. I never said your wife was a thief. And absolutely you can get on here and say that she is innocent. I do not think your wife is guilty, as she has not been found guilty in a court of law. You are correct that you said she was out, and I apologize for not seeing that. I have said all I am going to say in this matter. (I think)

[kool2006]

Oh Boy This Is Getting Interesting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why Delete This Thread? Maybe The Truth Is Coming And The Heat In The Kitchen Is Getting To Hot To Handle Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh Boy This Is Getting Interesting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why Delete This Thread? Maybe The Truth Is Coming And The Heat In The Kitchen Is Getting To Hot To Handle Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My thoughts exactly. Why delete it? He has just as much right as anyone else. And I have seen way more stuff on here more heated than this.

[kool2006]

So I Have Been Reading All Of This Stuff And Someone Said That You Could See The Futage Online I Have Tried To Get To See The Video Online But It Isnt On Here Any More, So Will Someone Tell Me How I Can Get To See The Video. Yogi You Go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Agree With You That You Need To Get To The Bottom Of This Matter If It Was My Wife I Would Be Behind Her All The Way Too!

[kool2006]

( Anoncoward ) No Doubt ! I Feel He Has Any Right To Say She Is Innoccent Too! So Chuck Don't Delete It Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

( Anoncoward ) No Doubt ! I Feel He Has Any Right To Say She Is Innoccent Too! So Chuck Don't Delete It Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!
You can just call me AC. LOL

[yogibear1954]

Dear Foxy You Said That This Was Probably Your Last Reply? And You Say You Know I Have Not Got An Attorney? I Would Like To Know Where You Get All Your Info / Because U Don't Know Where I Get All Of Mine From. And If You Dont Know No More Than That Then I Dont Mind If You Dont Reply. Thank You The Dummie Yogi 1954

[Foxy]

Funny, I guess I was wrong, I thought you said you didn't have an attorney. FYI.. when you have 2 user names you should take off the "title" caps making all of your words in capital letters when you switch names. I do however enjoy this converstation with you and you. I find it is helpful to talk things out. And I have said it before that I comend you for defending your wife. I am not your enemy.

[yogibear1954]

Thank you Foxy lady. I appreciate you letter. I made it known that Fred Lewis and Yogibear is two of the same. I am not using capital letters. If I did it was by accident. But I do appreciate you not being my enemy. And I thank you for backing up and reading what I have said. But I'm trying to be nice and still protect my wife. But it is hard to read this and still be nice.

Yogibear1954, Fred Lewis

[Foxy]

You should understand that one of the many things that makes America great is the freedom of speech. And as Chuck said before, if you read the dates of the posts, they are before anyone knew of Tammie.

If you think this is heated you should read more threads than just this one. We get into alot of heated discussions, but understand that it is our opinion and not all opinions are based on fact. Including mine sometimes.

My advice is to keep being a detective, keep working until your point is made. This is a public forum, and what you have to say may need to be said somewhere besides just here.
(And a word to the wise, my name is Foxy, very rarely am I a "lady" :p lol)

[Chuck]

The thread should not be deleted as long.

It is no more heated than any of our political chats.

[User Name]

As someone who saw both Tammie and the best pictures available, there's absolutely no doubt they are one and the same. Someone from the auto parts store positively identified her as the person they saw in the paper.

Apparently, her husband (yogi?), identified her straight away as soon as he saw the picture, exclaiming "That's my wife! And she's wearing my jacket!"

I understand your protectivity, but attacking Maysville's law enforcement as inept just because you personally don't want to believe it isn't an effective tactic.

Edit: Certainly do not take this to mean that your wife is automatically guilty. As a matter of fact, she is presumed innocent. But there is probable cause to believe that she is the person who committed the theft. Therefore, there will be a trial.

[kool2006]

To reply to last remarks I have a flash for Maysville finest, utter respect they ain't going to change my mind up one side or down the other. And to my opinion if the shoe fits just continue to wear it and do your finest. Let there be a trial. But up to this point my wife has been guilty until proven innocent. And as far as properly being identified by a woman at the auto advance this woman gave a postively id of Tammie from that newspaper clipping and that woman has not seen Tammie over 3 times in her life and me without any glasses. You did not really have enough evidance to arrest her. Besides telling me that my wife had been running that man in that picture for 2 or 3 months when they did not know him any more than I. Why should they tell such a confounded lie. Not only that you posted in the paper that my statement isn't any good. So what are you afraid of you might have the wrong woman. Just remember it takes good evidence to indict her. Just hope that you have concurit evidence because I do. So be it if it goes to trial. But I have a feeling that is going to be as far as it gets. But if you can sleep with it so can I. And by the way when my wife was questioned she was cursed by her answers with them 4 letter f words. I never cursed your wife or none of Maysville's finest. I don't have to attack Maysville's Law Enforcement. Because they have attack themselves.

I do thank Chuck and Foxy, AC and several others for keeping this thread going. I mean no wrong when I said Foxy lady I just assumed not realizing Foxy was a lady not as a smart alecy jesture. But I'm tired of my wife being drugged through the mud and I am sure no one on here would like to have there spouse treated as mine has been since the day before the identification. Everybody incest I read and know and yet I don't blame anybody on this web site as I first felt. Since day one of her arrest she has been treated less than human.

Her dumb husband yogibear1954 also known as Fred Lewis

[blueeyez]

woo wee this story sounds interesting. i agree with most after reading i dont think chuck should delete it either, it sounds to me there has been a little hot around the colar in here.

[User Name]

Let's expand on your theory of probable cause with an anecdote.

Your wife is murdered. It is (for whatever reason) captured on a high quality videotape. The officer takes a still from that videotape and releases it to the local newspaper in hopes of solving the crime. Through some police work, the detectives manage to positively identify the woman in the tape and the judge agrees with the identification and issues a warrant. A short time later, the police receive a call from a store employee claiming that she (or he) believes they have seen the person mentioned in the paper. The officer takes the same picture and the warrant with them to arrest the (alleged) murderer. The officer positively identifies the person named in the warrant as the person standing in front of them as well as the person captured in the picture.

Through some strange rule of law I am not aware of, the police have committed some miscarriage of justice? Due to something the arresting officer (as a trained police officer) and the county prosecutor (as an accomplished lawyer) and the judge (as an accomplished lawyer and an elected judge) are not aware of, the justice system really didn't have probable cause to issue a warrant or make an arrest?

That sounds a little far-fetched. Perhaps even tinfoil hat territory.

I think one of two things have happened. Either your judgement is severely clouded because we are speaking of your wife, or you are aware of what happened and after making a statement to two detectives that the person in the picture was your wife and wearing your jacket, you realize that you need to do something other than condemn your wife. I could be wrong, of course, and I would never attack you as a person for your decisions.

Be aware that trying to martyr yourself or your wife in this thread isn't going to get you anywhere with me. I'm not calling you dumb, or stupid, or any of the things you like to imply about the Maysville Police Department. Calling yourself stupid and making outrageous claims about the horrible treatment of your wife (less than human? saying the 'f' word to her?) doesn't endear you to me, as I am only stating facts and have no emotional attachment to this case.

As with any case handled by the justice system, your wife has not been presumed guilty from day one. There is probable cause to believe that your wife committed the crime and she has been arrested and then released pending her trial. At her trial, the burden of proof rests squarely on the shoulders of the prosecution, not your wife. You should step back, take a deep breath, and take an objective look at this if you truly believe your wife innocent. If she is, it will bear out in the trial, and absolutely nothing you write in a letter to an editor or on this BBS will affect that. Your time would be better spent with your lawyer and witnesses actively working towards her exoneration.

[Anonymous Coward]

As with any case handled by the justice system, your wife has not been presumed guilty from day one. There is probable cause to believe that your wife committed the crime and she has been arrested and then released pending her trial. At her trial, the burden of proof rests squarely on the shoulders of the prosecution, not your wife. You should step back, take a deep breath, and take an objective look at this if you truly believe your wife innocent. If she is, it will bear out in the trial, and absolutely nothing you write in a letter to an editor or on this BBS will affect that. Your time would be better spent with your lawyer and witnesses actively working towards her exoneration.

THAT"S WHAT IM SAYIN! I knew they could not arrest her with out a warrant, and with out proable cause. I tried telling him to step out of the box and look in, and ya see where that got me. And also, Foxy said that he needed to tell the story to an attorney. Thanks for bringing in another point of view. And I too think that the truth will come out in a trial.

[yogibear1954]

So who do yous think you are ? I'M NOT to much for caring what you think you are or what you think you are doing. But I have looked at this ever way and I see the same thing. I was on the outside looking in on my wife at the justice center at my wife incarceated that she knew nothing about and much less done. I admit I made a false idenification with out my glasses or magnigying glass. This is where no one want to admit there wrong or there made mistakes. And it dont take much to see it. Im the one said Im the dummy, but that dont make you so right and me so wrong and for you Anonymous Coward you need to take a look and but out just who do you think your fooling, I have a right to say what I want and you two dont mean any thing in my book. People will hear from me for a while no matter how much you try to make things look good for you that dont change anything I have the same right to freedom of speech. Some one with probable cause cost my wife her job and two weeks in jail not to speak of all the grief. So you think I'm going to back up and shut up and take a second wind. Not to count for all the lies. And as far as the coat is concerned if can speak for itself. Her coat is a half length and the coat the woman in the video was wear was a 3/4 length. But that can all be brought out in trial to along with a lot more missing links. As far as you advising me to an attorney dont let that worry you I would not want you to lose any sleep. I may be a dummy and maybe stupid. But I'm not that big of a dummy or that stupid. As far as I'm concerned your advice is like opinions everybodies got them and knows it all. That is why I consert myself a dummy. I'm not a Coward that is why I will stand up for what is right. I made a statement that if my wife would have been low enough to have done this to me or herself and it could have be proven that she done such I would have been done with her. Although at the same time I made the statement that she is my wife and I do love her and if I seen reason that she was innocent regardless of what she had been accused I would stand behind her 100%. Now I don't just believe that she is innocent I know. I think you all need to back up and regroup because at this time I can't see that your group is getting anywhere. As far as Foxy, Chuck and others on here they are very good people. There are not accusing anyone to my knowledge. You keep running the way you are and I have no more to say to you. And I still think that Maysville's finest are trying there best. Thank you for your comments..

Yogibear1954

P.S. Why don't you come clean and tell who you are I did. This is just a rap session. You can rap, show the people the video again and let them form there on opinion. It is better than the fuzzy picture in the paper. Thank you again no more comment.

Yogibear1954

[Anonymous Coward]

YAWN! Ok I am bored now. Ya keep yappin ya jaws at the same thing, though your stories don't add up, you say you mistakenly identified your wife in the photo, but yet you COULD see another person and got a license plate number, what makes you better than the person that identified your wife at the auto parts store? You are identifing a "suspect" from a photo just as the tipster did. Anyway, you didn't like me, Foxy or Chuck earlier, (which means you judged them before you knew anything about them. Turn abouts fair play), then you say you like us, now you hate me, sheesh, hate me or like me, but remember there is no in between. And if I told you who I was then I wouldn't be anonymous, plus I don't have the courage to tell.
There are only a few people in this world that know the truth. And I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but maybe, just maybe your wife has NOT told you the whole story. It has happened to others before. I AM NOT ACCUSING ANYONE, ONLY MAKING A POINT. I never accused your wife either. Guess we will ALL just have to see how it plays out in the court. Which by the way is public record and legal for anyone to see.


**AC clicks heels together and says "there is no place like www.maysvilleky.bbs, there's no place like www.maysvilleky.bbs, there's no place like www.maysvilleky.bbs"**

[SomeDude]

So who do yous think you are ? I'M NOT to much for caring what you think you are or what you think you are doing………blah, blah, blah

……..for you Anonymous Coward you need to take a look and but out just who do you think your fooling, I have a right to say what I want and you two dont mean any thing in my book…….blah, blah, blah

……..As far as you advising me to an attorney dont let that worry you I would not want you to lose any sleep. I may be a dummy and maybe stupid. But I'm not that big of a dummy or that stupid. As far as I'm concerned your advice is like opinions everybodies got them and knows it all. That is why I consert myself a dummy. I'm not a Coward that is why I will stand up for what is right…….blah, blah, blah

……. I think you all need to back up and regroup because at this time I can't see that your group is getting anywhere. As far as Foxy, Chuck and others on here they are very good people…….blah, blah, blah

Yogibear1954

P.S. Why don't you come clean and tell who you are I did……..blah, blah, blah

Yogibear1954

Yogibear, I’m sure you are very upset. No, I haven’t been in your situation. Therefore, I can only imagine what you and your family are going through. However, I think you should take a deep breath, regroup and reread some of these posts. I have NOT read any where in these posts, someone accusing you or you wife of anything. No one is being cruel to you except, in response to your own personal attacks like above. I think you are just so angry at the world; you are failing to realize these people are taking time out of their day. Just to try to help steer you in the right direction. You are right; these are their opinions, as this is mine. What do you expect from an open community forum? Some posts are fact, some are opinion but, it is up to you in what you believe to be true. You should also try to keep an open mind when you make a post. People’s opinions vary from one end to the other, so be ready for it. The forum rules state you have the right to disagree but, not to execute personal attacks or threats when doing so. After all, is it really worth it? Who is it helping, other than you venting your anger out on people simply trying to help you? Think about it and let me know, if you’d rather not post it here then instant message me. I will not respond to any personal attacks. Thanks for your time.

SomeDude

[kdown]

We often hear that the United States Constitution guarantees that an accused is "..innocent until proven guilty.." in a court of law. I have done a word by word search on a site that claims to present the complete text of the US Constitution and I cannot find the words "guilty" or "innocent". Are they in the Constitution? If not, where did the phrase "..innocent until proven guilty.." originate?

The Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution reads, in part, "No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law ..."

What this means, in plain terms, is that constitutionally you cannot be executed, imprisoned, or fined without the proper course of justice taking place.As you found out, due process, itself, is not defined in the constitution, but is universally recognized as meaning what we term as "a fair trial."

Going forward from there, a fair trial by a jury of one's peers requires that the jurors approach the case with the thought that the prosecution is required to prove the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Since the trial begins with the prosecution not having introduced a single piece of evidence, it follows that a defendant must be innocent, until proven guilty.

[Chuck]

We often hear that the United States Constitution guarantees that an accused is "..innocent until proven guilty.." in a court of law. I have done a word by word search on a site that claims to present the complete text of the US Constitution and I cannot find the words "guilty" or "innocent". Are they in the Constitution? If not, where did the phrase "..innocent until proven guilty.." originate?

The Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution reads, in part, "No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law ..."

What this means, in plain terms, is that constitutionally you cannot be executed, imprisoned, or fined without the proper course of justice taking place.As you found out, due process, itself, is not defined in the constitution, but is universally recognized as meaning what we term as "a fair trial."

Going forward from there, a fair trial by a jury of one's peers requires that the jurors approach the case with the thought that the prosecution is required to prove the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Since the trial begins with the prosecution not having introduced a single piece of evidence, it follows that a defendant must be innocent, until proven guilty.


"Innocent, until proven guilty" is granted by a Supreme Court ruling and based on an interpretation of the 5th amendment to the Constitution.

1895 Coffin vs United States trace this and helped to establish the law. However Coffin's decision was overturned but not based on this "innocent, until proven guilty".

Innocent until proven guilty is considered a part of the "Due Process" procedures.

[yogibear1954]

thank you chuck say more in 10 words then me and others see this someone listen to he done some home work thank you again yogi 1954

[User Name]

Mr. Lewis, I don't doubt your right to speak freely on these forums. You are certainly entitled to your opinions.

What I am starting to doubt, however, as I read the veracity and aggressive manner of your posts is your motivation behind all of this.

If you truly could not see the still taken from the video when it was presented to you by detectives, why did you immediately identify it as your wife? Why wouldn't you just say that you couldn't see well and retrieve your glasses or a magnifying glass to get a better look? Even if you thought it looked vaguely like your wife despite your poor eyesight, how did you identify the jacket she was wearing as definitively yours?

I read your comment on her coat being half length and the picture from the video being three-quarter length, but she wasn't wearing her coat, according to your statement. She was wearing your coat.

Of course, you say now that you can't see to read a phonebook without a magnifying glass. So why in the world would you immediately identify your wife in a photograph, wearing your jacket no less? If your eyesight is truly this bad, surely you would have just said so, instead of making a 'false identification' (your words, not mine) that implicated your wife in felony theft.

Since your opinion is valid here, so is mine.

And in my opinion (and only my opinion, not representative of any organization or this BBS) is that you are now loudly complaining of your wife's framing to everyone who will listen (which includes her jury pool) because you know something about the theft. Whether you knew before or after the fact is none of my business, but it's the only theory that makes sense in light of your attacks on the press, this BBS, and the justice system of Mason County after positively identifying your wife to detectives. I sincerely hope that my opinion is false that that you are simply misled or that your judgement is too clouded.

[yogibear1954]

To start with my coat and her coat is just a like her coat is gray and mine is green. She wears mine and I wear hers. And it does not matter what I say because you are going to say what you want to. I do no something about the thief and I will tell you now ever since I got on the computer and seen your video that was clear incomparison to the newspaper clipping and the date and time. I said then and I say now you got the wrong person. Why don't you go after the real theives. You can sure pull the draw back on me and I'm tired of your mouth. This is all that I have to say in the matter. I'm not scared of you or no one else. Im just tired of your crap. You know it all and no one else knows nothing. I will not comment no more on bbs. You win so keep running your mouth. I appreciate a lot of good people that I had under estimated on this web page. I do thank you for allowing me to make my comments on bbs. I do not get in to arguing. My mother taught me to ignore ignorous and this crap is ignore. I thank several of those that are on here. Keep your web page it is interesting.

Yogibear1954

[Jeremy]

Wow. 68 posts about a laptop computer. Weren't banks recently robbed?

[User Name]

I do no something about the thief and I will tell you now ever since I got on the computer and seen your video that was clear incomparison to the newspaper clipping and the date and time.

If what you say is true, you won't be back to read this, but just in case you do:

If you know something about the thief, why not call the police department and ask to speak with a detective and share with them what you know? You claim that you have some knowledge of this, and that you have had since you saw the video in comparison to the newspaper clipping. Why don't you share this information?

You mistake me, sir. I'm not here to argue with you. I'm simply voicing my opinion in much the same way you chose to do. Part of my opinion involves pointing out fallacies in your statements about this matter. Much to the contrary of your statement here:

And it does not matter what I say because you are going to say what you want to.

I'm not making anything up, I'm simply pointing out oddities in the way things as I understand them have happened. I'm not dismissing what you say out of hand (although you seem to be doing this to me) I'm simply taking what you say and trying to compare it with facts, and I'm not having any luck reconciling them.

Anyway, on the odd chance you read this but choose not to respond, good luck with your wife's case and future endeavors.

[User Name]

Jeremy:

Banks robbed in Maysville?

[Jeremy]

Jeremy:

Banks robbed in Maysville?

Not in Maysville recently (that I know of) but elsewhere like:
http://www.maysville-online.com/articles/2006/01/04/local_news/106bank.txt

Of course a year or two ago there was at least one, maybe two, bank robberies in town. I can't remember exactly.

My point was that it was a simple case of shoplifting. Probably won't even carry jail time (beyond time served, restitution, fines, etc.) And yet it's the talk of the town.

Like I said, wow.

[User Name]

Ahh, I see. I agree with you then, it's a relatively trivial matter, probably only brought back to life by her husband coming to this thread.

[Anonymous Coward]

Of course it came back to life when he got here, and that is what made so great. I just wonder if what was said here can be used for or against the case against his wife. I wonder if he is aware that this is a PUBLIC forum, and that the MPD post things on BBS, just like the video of the recent robberies. I re-read alot of the postings by Yogi and his to other user ids he has here, and it does seem like there are many oddities, as User Name and myself pointed out. Guess we will read about soon enough. Does anyone know when the trial is scheduled to begin?

[kdown]

AC my point exactly, plus possibly being read my people who might get called to serve on a jury. The whole thread is really useless. More entertainment than news.

[Foxy]

Isn't that what this is? A place for all to voice opinions, regardless of whether or not we agree? I think that alot of the threads here are entertaining. And it is his free will to say what he wants here, just as it is yours and mine.

[Chuck]

AC my point exactly, plus possibly being read my people who might get called to serve on a jury. The whole thread is really useless. More entertainment than news.

Once again, we are not a news site and I don't want to be a news site. I want to be an information site, good, bad or indifferent.

I want people of Mason County to have a place they can feel feel to talk about stuff freely.

I posted the video and give the people involved a place to speak about it. That is there choice to do.

Anyone that has information about a case that would bias them from being a fair juror can not sit on a jury for that case. So no, people that have seen the video or this post probably won't be sitting on the jury.

If you are uncomfortable with a thread just don't read it. There are many more to choose from.

Normally this thread would disappear in a week by itself. It will stay visible as long as we keep posting in it. If you want it to disappear, don't post in it.

Seriously I am not trying to sound rude in anyway. So don't take it as I am being that way.

[angel22158]

well as for as the radioshack theft i beleve the woman was a mistake of identy. seems like everyone has forgot about the gentlem also in the video.in my oppion they are still at large.now as for you yogiebear i agree with you 110% i comend you for believing in your wife.remember have faith just remember a grain of mustard seed can move a mountain

[mark]

well as for as the radioshack theft i beleve the woman was a mistake of identy. seems like everyone has forgot about the gentlem also in the video.in my oppion they are still at large.now as for you yogiebear i agree with you 110% i comend you for believing in your wife.remember have faith just remember a grain of mustard seed can move a mountain
I read this in an earlier post:
Tammy L. Lewis, 45, of Vanceburg, was arrested at a restaurant where she works.
...............if the above statement is true, the video should prove her innocence. That was some pretty good pics I saw.
If she's the correct person arrested.....I wonder why she hasn't ratted out the male yet..............see ya mark

[snowball]

Well yell they were some good pictures but who are they. But are they Tammie Lewis. They still have pursautors in here. Did you ever think that she has never ratted the man out yet because she may not know him. But oh well somebody voice there opinion. The way I see it and the way I read it every time yogi said something everybody is twisting it around. If he is her husband he would know where she was at. But who am I to say.

Snowball

[Foxy]

I don't think anyone twisted words. I think all that was done was point out discrepencies with his words. And I am pretty sure that if Yogi is her husband, he said himself he was not with her on that day, so how can he be sure that he KNOWS where she was?

(how many IDs are you gonna make?)

[User Name]

Is this guy still trying? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

[Chuck]

Well yell they were some good pictures but who are they. But are they Tammie Lewis. They still have pursautors in here. Did you ever think that she has never ratted the man out yet because she may not know him. But oh well somebody voice there opinion. The way I see it and the way I read it every time yogi said something everybody is twisting it around. If he is her husband he would know where she was at. But who am I to say.
Snowball

The radio Shack video ended 3 weeks ago (2 Videos ago). What video are you talking about?

You are right, the video playing in todays was not the person you mentioned.

You're confusing me

[Foxy]

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

ROFL @ Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot.........LOL:D

[angel22158]

well how would any body here on this thread would know yogi and know his wife or even concisder the woman's alibi , so in my opinion iam just curious to know can she really get a fair trial. and i hope truth profails and not fall through the cracks . and that she wasnt a case of fasle idenity.

angel

[Chuck]

Is there an echo in here. I keep hearing the same thing over and over. We don't believe anyone is guilty till the jury says so.

Also we are not the jury so it does no good to post the case here. At this point I have no recourse except to close the thread.

I personally have grown to like the Lewis's and was glad to see them post. But is is time to move on.

Thread is close.