Republicans Starting to Abandon Bush

[tkcomer]

It looks like the Republican Party is starting to publicly question Bush’s handling of the country. Some are starting to grumble about the mess he has in Iraq, gas prices, the economy and skyrocketing deficit among other things. They are starting to fear not getting re-elected if they keep supporting him due to the fact that now, about half of the REPUBLICAN voters are against his policies. Some are even talking about recending the tax cuts because the deficit has spiraled out of control under Bush’s rule. Many are now publicly saying the war in Iraq is all wrong. One thing about the Republicans, they always stick together through thick and thin. At the very least, they don’t say anything when a member gets in serious trouble. To openly question the direction that Bush is taking this country is amazing. Now, I wonder if they will do anything to change the course this country is on.

[kcredden]

It is heartning to see the party starting to abandon their cash cow. When he was brought in, in 1999, I thought that he was put before the auction block like the stallion son of Man O'War - Just a name, nothing more. (But not a dis toward Man O'War's son). The only thing I've agreed on, is his war in Afganistan; which the Taliban and Al Quata desirved 100%. After that - nothing.

The idea too, of tax breaks toward the corporations and rich I strongly suspected, would lead no where. Well I was wrong here. it's lead more jobs out of the country, and the deficit into the stratosphere.

But I can't blame Bush for all. The party itself, must be held accountable. Bush can't make all the new laws, and bills. Everyone does that, but of course, they're looking for a scape-goat, so I guess Bush is the goat.

Ba...

[Chuck]

Yep,,, it is in the news, on the radio and in the papers.

Sorry guys, couldn't pass on this one.

[tkcomer]

I agree whole heartily. A president can’t do much without the backing of Congress. I just wonder how many voted with him not knowing the full impact. Either way, they all should go. I’m not sure I want a Democrat leader just yet. Something has to be done to bring spending under control. And the Democrats have no one with a plan to bring fiscal sanity to this country. At least they could do is stop the bleeding of jobs from this country. That alone would bring in more revenue. Won’t happen. When Wal-Mart is the 8th largest trading partner with China, things are not good. Wal-Mart alone is turning into a financial drain on this country. Something a lot of people don’t know.

[mark]

Something has to be done to bring spending under control. And the Democrats have no one with a plan to bring fiscal sanity to this country.


...............neither party has any kind of a plan to cut spending. Yes, neither party! They all talk the cuts, but I never see any. Until there's some type of agreement to actually cut spending from both parties, nothing will change until a economic disaster happens.


Then watch the fingers point!! ..............see ya mark

[ynotamerican]

Yep, that's how it happens, one person at a time getting discouraged by all the media lies and negativity. Without any media coverage of the "FACT" that our government's income has increased significantly since the tax cuts, as predicted, we are led to believe that the tax cuts are costing us. Same happened during the Reagan administration. The fault was in the SPENDING, and in this administration we have witnessed the same attrocity. The lack of a VETO pen has hurt this administration, not the lack of taxes. Now we somehow go from that to wanting to cut and run when the enemy is actually being defeated. Hmmm, where I have witnessed that before? Are we going to repeat the mistakes we made in Vietnam and pull out only to see thousands of people suffer torture and even death at the hands of an intolerant victor by default? Wake up America, you are allowing the script to be written by the enemy.

[tkcomer]

"Wake up America, you are allowing the script to be written by the enemy." This script has been written many times before. Every major power since time began did the exact same thing we are doing. They became economically and militarily powerful. But that wasn’t enough. They had to start sticking their noses in other country’s business. And starting wars with countries that didn’t agree with them. And they ALL collapsed under massive debts. While they drained their treasures to support their warring armies, the people back home suffered. Bin Laudin’s big plan is to bankrupt the United States. Just like Russia. Russia collapsed under massive debt trying to match our military buildup while fighting a costly war. They withdrew from Afghanistan, but it was too late. With their economy smashed, the people starving, a revolt took place. Our military is consuming almost 25% of the budget. No country in history ever lasted very long spending that much. And Viet Nam? China ran us out of that country. Not the North Vietnamese. Fought us to a draw in Korea. Ideology has not changed one bit. Still threatens the democratic country of Taiwan. And our Congress let it be a most favored trade partner. Jeeze

[Chuck]

Yep, that's how it happens, one person at a time getting discouraged by all the media lies and negativity. Without any media coverage of the "FACT" that our government's income has increased significantly since the tax cuts, as predicted, we are led to believe that the tax cuts are costing us. Same happened during the Reagan administration. The fault was in the SPENDING, and in this administration we have witnessed the same attrocity. The lack of a VETO pen has hurt this administration, not the lack of taxes. Now we somehow go from that to wanting to cut and run when the enemy is actually being defeated. Hmmm, where I have witnessed that before? Are we going to repeat the mistakes we made in Vietnam and pull out only to see thousands of people suffer torture and even death at the hands of an intolerant victor by default? Wake up America, you are allowing the script to be written by the enemy.

Tony,
How has our Country increased income??? Many Factors have moved over seas. We Lost 3 in our area.

Look at the national Debt by Republicans. I post figures again but we got 3 more years of this clown and we already have record Debt. Record Inflation. This Administration is a Record breaker and none of the records are good.

Basically I said in in the 70's and I will say it now. We have no business fight any Country that has never attacked us. We are letting out people be killed for antihero Country.

There again, like it or not we got 3 more years of this. It is a waste to argue arbor it.

If we don't fix the Debt to income ratio for the average man so he can afford to work then our country my collapse.

Look around you locally. Local Businesses are failing because people are starting to spend less. The only place were business is booming is the gas pumps.

[kdown]

At the root of the economy problem.

Over the last quarter-century, the number of refineries in the United States dropped to 149, less than half the number in 1981. Because companies have upgraded and expanded their aging operations, refining capacity during that time period shrank only 10 percent from its peak of 18.6 million barrels a day. At the same time, gasoline consumption has risen by 45 percent.

Add to this the high cost of diesel fuel which is a by product of refining gasoline.

Trucks use diesel fuel. Trucks haul over 90 % of cosumer goods in the country.

Diesel fuel is expensive. Trucking companies are going out of business. Only state governments with a sales tax on gasoline and diesel fuel profit.

Consequently, the price of consumer goods rises as transportation costs rise.

[tkcomer]

I’ll admit the Republicans are behind big business all the way. Even if it is detrimental to the country. But ya gots to remember, the job flight and corporate mergers started in the 80s. Under a Republican president, but it was a Democratic Congress that wrote the laws allowing it to happen. And it was under a Democrat that pushed for, and got “Most Favored Trade Status” for China. And pushed for and got NAFTA. Those two alone account for a lot of misery for the middle class. And added billions to social spending as the government now has to pick up the tab for the millions of people that can’t afford their medical bills as more and more companies no longer pick up the full tab, if any. The Republicans are starting to get nervous because their voter base is slowly abandoning them. They’re afraid that the voters will go to the polls with an “Anybody but them” mentality. And that can be bad also. But I truly believe the middle class is too stupid to put this country on the right track. When I see that 20% of our citizens believe the sun revolves around the earth, and they probably all vote, I don’t see much hope.

[annieap]

But I truly believe the middle class is too stupid to put this country on the right track. When I see that 20% of our citizens believe the sun revolves around the earth, and they probably all vote, I don’t see much hope.

If we middle class are that stupid then take away our voting privileges and let the upper crust make the decisions. Then sit back and watch the drama.

[tkcomer]

That’s just it. Vast majorities of the middle class stay home on the election day. And the ones that do vote are uninformed or have preconceived notions. You wouldn’t believe the amount of people that won’t vote for a Republican because their daddy voted democrat, their granddaddy voted democrat, and if it was right then, it’s right now. But I run into even more people that won’t vote for a Democrat because of morals and that the Democratic Party is against God. These are the uninformed voters that stream to the polls and vote not for the person, but a for a certain party. The rich don’t have to vote at the polls. They vote with large campaign contributions. We could turn this country around, but we don’t. But here is what really gets my goat. Voters will stream to the polls to change presidents. That’s fine. But remember, it was your congressman that gave the president the power to do what ever you are mad about. If you are mad at the president, change your congressman. You’ll get better results.

[ponto]

Plato
(427-347 BC)

The legendary Greek philosopher Plato made this very accurate observation: “One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.”

[Groundhog]

Is it true that Bush's grandpa was doing business with the Nazis? I noticed that daddy Bush fought the Japs in the Pacific, and of course, Baby didn't have to fight anyone. I can't put a lot of trust in a President whose family made money by selling something to a bunch of facist pigs. Just wondering.

[kdown]

Looks like its true, however, one of Hitlers biggest supply companies was IBM and there were plenty of others.


Thyssen funds found in US

The Zanesville Signal [Zanesville, OH]

July 31, 1941

NEW YORK -- Existence of a $3,000,000 fund established here by Fritz Thyssen, German industrialist and original banker of Adolf Hitler was disclosed today in a story in the New York Journal-American.

The story added:

Whether the money is for Thyssen personally, or, perhaps, for some of his high-placed Nazi friends in the event of an "emergency" compelling them to leave Germany, no one knew.

However, it will do neither Thyssen nor any of his Nazi friends any good now, as it has been "frozen" along with the $4,500,000,000 Axis assets now held in this country.

The money exists in funds of the Union Banking Corporation, an investment company incorporated and licensed under New York state laws in August, 1924.

Money for its $400,000 capital stock came from Thyssen's bank Voor Handel En Scheepvaart in Rotterdam.

Among members of its board of directors are H.R. Harriman, Ray Morris and Prescott S. Bush, part owners in the firm of Brown Brothers Harriman and Company, of which W. Averell Harriman is now American Minister Plenipotentiary to England.

Also a director is H. D. Pennington, Brown Brothers Harriman and Co. manager.

On Jan. 14, 1941, Knight Wooley, another partner in the Harriman company, wrote to State Banking Superintendent William R. White in behalf of Harriman, Morris, Bush and Pennington:

"Should the United States enter the war, they fell [sic] they might be under some embarrassment because of their connection with the bank, even though we have no financial interest in the Union Banking Corporation, nor do we participate in its earnings."


Published by
The Zanesville Signal [Zanesville, OH]